Illegal box out

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Dad

Yay, thug ball.

Also, he definitely can guard him. The whole point of illegally holding someone with your leg is to get a huge advantage. Wouldn't be much point to it otherwise.

If he shoves me away from the basket posting or under it rebounding it is a huge advantage. Otherwise, it hurts more than helps. My foot goes right next to his and he is beat. Frankly, I don't see how a leg holds me. If I'm 6'5 and u r 6'1 I assure u that you could not guard me on the block.

And as to your "thug ball" comment I will say that there are well understood pickup rules for players who can actually play. I haven't played in years but, when I did I would never call foul on opponent. They were on their honor. If I fouled I would call it...no matter what. If someone plays like BS then u have to deal with it. Usually only once.

And I get if a leg is pushing you. But holding...can't see that worth complaining about. Shocking for me to see u say it's a huge advantage. It just isn't.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

... would never call foul on opponent. They were on their honor. If I fouled I would call it...no matter what.

Back when I was playing playground pick-up basketball, there were certainly a lot more "I got him" than "I got it". A lot more.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Back when I was playing playground pick-up basketball, there were certainly a lot more "I got him" than "I got it". A lot more.

This is weird. Totally different atmosphere I grew up in.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Dad

This is weird. Totally different atmosphere I grew up in.

He means that he would say "I fouled someone as opposed to he fouled me. "

Again, if you are or ever were a player, you do NOT call a foul on the opponent. He calls it or you play through it. If he repeatedly hacks and doesn't call it on himself then u have to deal with it. I would knock him to the ground until he got the messsge.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Back when I was playing playground pick-up basketball, there were certainly a lot more "I got him" than "I got it". A lot more.

Originally Posted by BigCat

He means that he would say "I fouled someone as opposed to he fouled me. " Again, if you are or ever were a player, you do NOT call a foul on the opponent. He calls it or you play through it. If he repeatedly hacks and doesn't call it on himself then u have to deal with it. I would knock him to the ground until he got the message.

Bingo. In my playground experience (asphalt courts, metal chain nets, first ten to make free throws play, winners stay on court), players that call a lot of fouls against opponents, or don't call fouls on themselves, usually go home with a lot of scrapped knees, and black and blues.

[ballgame99]

This sounds like the old high-center trick, where you wedge your leg under the big man's butt so he loses his leverage and can't back you down. I used to teach this when I coached middle school. It is effective in holding your ground, especially when you are outsized. While technically illegal, so is an offensive guy muscling down a smaller guy when the smaller guy has position, so as long as the smaller guy is only using this to hold ground I'm guessing most here wouldn't call it. As soon as the little guy starts displacing the big guy, then yeah.

The OP sounds like a big guy whining because the little guy won't let him push him around. As long as he's not shoving you around big man, play ball.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Bingo. In my playground experience (asphalt courts, metal chain nets, first ten to make free throws play, winners stay on court), players that call a lot of fouls against opponents, or don't call fouls on themselves, usually go home with a lot of scrapped knees, and black and blues.

Memories. I'm still used to offense being the one calling the fouls. If you called stupid stuff you were inevitably about to get hurt. My philosophy was always if I can't finish through contact I don't deserve to be out there. And-ones get all the women once you get to competitive ball.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

Memories.