Syracuse v. Gonzaga (video request)

[biz]

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

All that don't call my line BS is just that. Yes, stay in your primary 99% of the time, but occasionally your partner will miss a call and will thank you for grabbing it. The official was trying to get the play right and from his angle it did appear that Cooney was OOB.

The teaching point here is, as always, don't guess!

I agree that there is definitely a time to come out of your primary but this is definitely NOT one of them. The C called Cooney for stepping on the endline from above the FT line extended while relatively straightlined!! The C had to look through a defender and try to call a line that he's looking at from a 90* angle. Never a good idea. The L (new T), while admittedly farther away (he was middle of the lane) is looking right down the endline and can see this a whole lot better than the C. My question is why is the C looking down at the line?

My first thought when he blew the whistle (Syracuse fan btw) was utter shock, then I immediately said (out loud) he must have been way OOB if the C called it. I wonder how the L/T missed it? Then I saw the replay.

Either way this is NOT the call to trumpet the merits of coming out of your primary to make a call. As you say he, "tried to get the play right and from his angle it did appear that Cooney was OOB." This is exactly why it's not the C's call! He can't possibly know with any certainty if Cooney was OOB which is why it is particularly shocking that he blew the whistle when the L/T had a pretty good look at it.

[NNJOfficial]

Originally Posted by biz

I agree that there is definitely a time to come out of your primary but this is definitely NOT one of them. The C called Cooney for stepping on the endline from above the FT line extended while relatively straightlined!! The C had to look through a defender and try to call a line that he's looking at from a 90* angle. Never a good idea. The L (new T), while admittedly farther away (he was middle of the lane) is looking right down the endline and can see this a whole lot better than the C. My question is why is the C looking down at the line?



My first thought when he blew the whistle (Syracuse fan btw) was utter shock, then I immediately said (out loud) he must have been way OOB if the C called it. I wonder how the L/T missed it? Then I saw the replay.



Either way this is NOT the call to trumpet the merits of coming out of your primary to make a call. As you say he, "tried to get the play right and from his angle it did appear that Cooney was OOB." This is exactly why it's not the C's call! He can't possibly know with any certainty if Cooney was OOB which is why it is particularly shocking that he blew the whistle when the L/T had a pretty good look at it.

I absolutely agree. My point is that we should not be saddled with the antiquated notion that you can never make a call involving your partner's line and this is as good a time to bring it up as any. The collective goal of the crew is to make correct calls and if we make a call that involves our partner's primary or line we should not guess and be 100 percent sure of the call.

I always tell my partners in pregame to grab a call if they see I missed one. There's no such thing as a perfect game and the game is supposed to be about the players, not our egos. If a guy tells me he is not okay with me making a call in his primary if he misses one then I know that our collective performance on the game is going to suffer.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

I absolutely agree. My point is that we should not be saddled with the antiquated notion that you can never make a call involving your partner's line and this is as good a time to bring it up as any. The collective goal of the crew is to make correct calls and if we make a call that involves our partner's primary or line we should not guess and be 100 percent sure of the call.

I always tell my partners in pregame to grab a call if they see I missed one. There's no such thing as a perfect game and the game is supposed to be about the players, not our egos. If a guy tells me he is not okay with me making a call in his primary if he misses one then I know that our collective performance on the game is going to suffer.

That is the problem, it "appeared" to be right. But he was totally wrong and the video showed it. He might have gotten away with that in the regular season, but not during this part of the season with more cameras and more scrutiny. That is why you leave it alone. Even if he thought it was right, you have to be more sure and he has a partner looking at the play directly. Trust him and if your partner is wrong, they will never blame you realistically because you do not have the angle.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by NNJOfficial

I absolutely agree. My point is that we should not be saddled with the antiquated notion that you can never make a call involving your partner's line and this is as good a time to bring it up as any. The collective goal of the crew is to make correct calls and if we make a call that involves our partner's primary or line we should not guess and be 100 percent sure of the call.

I always tell my partners in pregame to grab a call if they see I missed one. There's no such thing as a perfect game and the game is supposed to be about the players, not our egos. If a guy tells me he is not okay with me making a call in his primary if he misses one then I know that our collective performance on the game is going to suffer.

When calling outside of your primary it cannot "appear", you have to see it clearly.

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[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

When calling outside of your primary it cannot "appear", you have to see it clearly.

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That's right !!!! If we work together in May stay out of my POND !!!!!! Unless the supervisor walks in and you want to increase your schedule !!!!

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

When calling outside of your primary it cannot "appear", you have to see it clearly.

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The way I heard it put at a couple of camps last year - by the same clinician - was, "Be late, be right, be needed." That was a tough one on all three counts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

"Be late, be right, be needed."

That's the mantra that we use here in my little corner of Connecticut.

[mtn335]

Timeline: NCAA calls Zags coach to admit officiating error |

[Adam]

High road for Few. Easier to do this far after the fact, but still...

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by mtn335

Timeline: NCAA calls Zags coach to admit officiating error |

Sucks, but Syracuse didn't score after the TO and Gonzaga had the same lead with less time.....and still lost