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Old Wed Apr 06, 2016, 12:12pm
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I've seen this happen hundreds of times over the years ....its is liken to a "crow hop" that baseball outfielders use to create more momentum for a long throw after a catch or they field a batted ball hit to them

I've also seen it used by basketball player to start a dribble move after a catch ...this I always call traveling

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As for shooting ...... My mind's eye catches the movement but I rarely call it anymore (I will if they don't go thru with the shot --- and I'm not describing a jump stop but a catch and a movement-- while holding the ball after a catch...)

But I've not observed a gender difference
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Old Fri Apr 08, 2016, 11:43am
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Don't make this harder than it needs to be. Concentrate on the pivot and that will tell you if its a travel or not. Just like any other travel situation, you need to know whatth pivot foot is. If it is lifted and returned while in control of the ball, it's a travel. More times than not in the situation you are describing, the hop and the catch is one motion and the pivot isn't touching the floor when the catch/gather is made which makes it a legal move. That's all there is to it. Make that determination and move on to more important stuff.

When I was at Verne Harris camp years ago, this play was discussed. Verne's answer was he'd rather miss a travel call than call a good move a travel. If this is so prevalent in your area, what are the top officials calling. If it's prevalent, I'd say it's probably not a travel. Don't try to be the only Sherriff in town to male this call unless you are content with the games you are working.
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Old Fri Apr 08, 2016, 05:11pm
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When I was at Verne Harris camp years ago, this play was discussed. Verne's answer was he'd rather miss a travel call than call a good move a travel. If this is so prevalent in your area, what are the top officials calling. If it's prevalent, I'd say it's probably not a travel. Don't try to be the only Sherriff in town to male this call unless you are content with the games you are working.
*OK, but at this juncture we are not really concerned about "what top officials in my area are calling" ---but moreso in the correctness or incorrectness of the call. I think a so-called "top official" can also be prone to errors no?

Interesting comment from the camp you went to though--in terms of the clinician telling you'all to pass on a travel; reminds me of how at times some refs call "travel" on a simple 'euro-step' layup move.

Not sure of how you are conjecturing on whether or not this call is made will impact my varsity schedule tho?

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Old Fri Apr 08, 2016, 05:27pm
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I've also seen it used by basketball player to start a dribble move after a catch ...this I always call traveling

However....
As for shooting ...... My mind's eye catches the movement but I rarely call it anymore (I will if they don't go thru with the shot --- and I'm not describing a jump stop but a catch and a movement-- while holding the ball after a catch...)

But I've not observed a gender difference
*In contrast, I have mostly observed it due to gender--but ok, thanks for you input.
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