Video Req - CSU/Boise St - Buzzer Beater waved off....stopwatch used?

[MechanicGuy]

Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter...no idea how they came to waving off that basket. SC showed it from two angles, timed it both times, and got .7 and .63

[JetMetFan]

I've never seen it done before but under NCAA 2-7-6 they're well within their rights to use a stopwatch to correct errors and mistakes. That being said, I'm not sure where they got an extra 0.6 seconds between the player touching the ball and the clock starting but I'm also not the one using the stopwatch.

As a TV person I'd be inclined to trust ESPN's timing since they'd be using the time code from the video. But again, I'm not the one with the stopwatch.

[ballgame99]

Not sure if they had slow motion video or not, but watching the video at the link above and using my handy dandy stopwatch on my phone this bucket should have been good.

[deecee]

cant wait for the conference's take on this. I think the officials screwed up and got this wrong.

[RefCT]

Deadspin posted on this: Stopwatch-Wielding Referees Blow It, Overturn Boise State Buzzer-BeaterÂ*

According to the stmt, they used a stopwatch available on the replay monitor? Wow, that is a horrible idea for many tech reasons.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by RefCT

Deadspin posted on this: Stopwatch-Wielding Referees Blow It, Overturn Boise State Buzzer-BeaterÂ*

According to the stmt, they used a stopwatch available on the replay monitor? Wow, that is a horrible idea for many tech reasons.

Exactly, doesn't the video they have available to them have time stamps on it? If not, why not?

[Toren]

The conference has issued a statement that the call was correct.

I didn't really have many doubts with the crew that was on the floor.

[Adam]

According to Dave Hall's statement, released by the MW, this wasn't just a "stopwatch" as most people think of it.

“The protocol on any last-second shot, after the shot is made, you go to the monitor to review whether the shot was taken in time or not. We followed the protocol, we went to the monitor and we reviewed whether the shot was taken in the 0.8 seconds that was on the game clock when the ball was inbounded. We did that and we noticed that the game clock was not started upon touch. We then used a stopwatch overlay from the monitor review system to determine when he touched it and then figure out how many tenths of a second it took from the time he touched the ball until the time he released the ball and whether he was able to get that shot off in that 0.8 seconds. After reviewing that several times we determined that the shot was late. It was not taken in that 0.8-second time frame, but actually closer to 1.2 or 1.3 time frame. As a result, the basket does not count.”

If this was a mistake, it's a mistake with the stopwatch overlay.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Adam

According to Dave Hall's statement, released by the MW, this wasn't just a "stopwatch" as most people think of it.

“The protocol on any last-second shot, after the shot is made, you go to the monitor to review whether the shot was taken in time or not. We followed the protocol, we went to the monitor and we reviewed whether the shot was taken in the 0.8 seconds that was on the game clock when the ball was inbounded. We did that and we noticed that the game clock was not started upon touch. We then used a stopwatch overlay from the monitor review system to determine when he touched it and then figure out how many tenths of a second it took from the time he touched the ball until the time he released the ball and whether he was able to get that shot off in that 0.8 seconds. After reviewing that several times we determined that the shot was late. It was not taken in that 0.8-second time frame, but actually closer to 1.2 or 1.3 time frame. As a result, the basket does not count.”

If this was a mistake, it's a mistake with the stopwatch overlay.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter...no idea how they came to waving off that basket. SC showed it from two angles, timed it both times, and got .7 and .63

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

[deecee]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

I they used real time with a slow-motion replay? Think this through again.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

I they used real time with a slow-motion replay? Think this through again.

Ahh I get what he was now saying. They used real time stopwatch with a slow motion replay.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by deecee

If that was the case then in real time the number would be LESS than .7 or .63 NOT greater.

Ummm no.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Maybe they timed a slow motion replay???

Hah, that would be embarrassing, but can't wave it off with a certain someone's ability with technology.