Casebook play 9.2.2 Question.

[Nevadaref]

If there wasn't a made goal, an official is required to hand the ball to the thrower. He is going to be out of bounds before the official gives him the ball so this won't be a problem. If he steps inbounds prior to throwing the ball, it is a violation and a whistle at that point.

[tophat67]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If there wasn't a made goal, an official is required to hand the ball to the thrower. He is going to be out of bounds before the official gives him the ball so this won't be a problem. If he steps inbounds prior to throwing the ball, it is a violation and a whistle at that point.

Sorry, what I meant to say is, what happens if B1 threw the ball to his/her teammate and team B brought the ball down the court but they were passing it around and no goal was scored by team B?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tophat67

Sorry, what I meant to say is, what happens if B1 threw the ball to his/her teammate and team B brought the ball down the court but they were passing it around and no goal was scored by team B?

As soon as B1 throws the ball (and it's meant as a throw-in, not just tossing the ball to b2 to become the inbounder), it's a violation. The play never gets far enough fro B to pass it around in the FC.

[BryanV21]

Use your best judgment.

Did the player act as if he was throwing in the ball? If you said "yes" then you have a throw-in violation and you should blow the whistle and call it when it happens.

Did the player toss the ball to his teammate in an attempt for him to make the throw-in, only for that player to misunderstand and dribble down the court? If you said "yes" to this, then you would start a count as soon as you deem the ball was at their disposal for the throw-in. So you may have a 5-second count before they realize their mistake and run back to make the throw-in legally.

Now, there may be something else at play here that I'm not aware. So look out for other responses.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Use your best judgment.

Did the player act as if he was throwing in the ball? If you said "yes" then you have a throw-in violation and you should blow the whistle and call it when it happens.

Did the player toss the ball to his teammate in an attempt for him to make the throw-in, only for that player to misunderstand and dribble down the court? If you said "yes" to this, then you would start a count as soon as you deem the ball was at their disposal for the throw-in. So you may have a 5-second count before they realize their mistake and run back to make the throw-in legally.

Now, there may be something else at play here that I'm not aware. So look out for other responses.

Either way, once it's clear B has no intention of making a legitimate throw-in, I'm calling the violation. If B1 is trying to get B2's attention, knowing they need to do it right, I'll just count either until I get to 5 or B1 gives up and just goes with it.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If there wasn't a made goal, an official is required to hand the ball to the thrower. He is going to be out of bounds before the official gives him the ball so this won't be a problem. If he steps inbounds prior to throwing the ball, it is a violation and a whistle at that point.

What does this have to do with the casebook play? If there wasn't a made goal it would've just been a rebound.

[Altor]

There were two made goals in the OP. The OP's question was a little vague, but he meant to ask what would happen if the second goal was never made and B was just passing/dribbling the ball around. Nevadaref assumed he meant what if A had never scored.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Altor

There were two made goals in the OP. The OP's question was a little vague, but he meant to ask what would happen if the second goal was never made and B was just passing/dribbling the ball around. Nevadaref assumed he meant what if A had never scored.

I read it the way Nevadaref did at first.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Adam

I read it the way Nevadaref did at first.

How is that? I assumed he meant the second shot as the first shot miss wouldn't make any sense for his question on when you call the violation. There is no violation on a miss because the player never went OOB for the throw-in.

[Altor]

Congratulations, you successfully parsed the vague question. Not everybody did. Now we are all on the same page. Move on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dad

How is that? I assumed he meant the second shot as the first shot miss wouldn't make any sense for his question on when you call the violation. There is no violation on a miss because the player never went OOB for the throw-in.

The short answer is we get a lot of questions that have very basic answers, especially this time of year.