Vid Request: Texas vs Oklahoma

[JRutledge]

When the game is over I will post the video.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

The PC against Texas in the final 30 seconds would be an intriguing play to discuss. Not necessarily the merit of the call itself, but the timing of the whistle and where the L is looking when he decides to make the call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The PC against Texas in the final 30 seconds would be an intriguing play to discuss. Not necessarily the merit of the call itself, but the timing of the whistle and where the L is looking when he decides to make the call.

Here is your play.



Peace

Good call on the PC. Timing is great, Lead watched the play start, develop, and finish and made a ruling on the final result. Sure the player sold it but this call is absolutely defendable by a supervisor which is really all that matters.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Good call on the PC. Timing is great, Lead watched the play start, develop, and finish and made a ruling on the final result. Sure the player sold it but this call is absolutely defendable by a supervisor which is really all that matters.

I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

You are saying that the official makes the call prior to the offensive player releasing his try?

You are saying that the official isn't looking at the ball on its flight towards the basket?

Both of those look clear and obvious to me in the video.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

Those are a lot of assumptions from which to criticize a correct call.

Maybe he just took time to process what he saw and then made the correct call.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The PC against Texas in the final 30 seconds would be an intriguing play to discuss. Not necessarily the merit of the call itself, but the timing of the whistle and where the L is looking when he decides to make the call.

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Originally Posted by OKREF

Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

[JRutledge]

What do you got???



Peace

[Nevadaref]

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

I agree. It's a legal play. No violation.

Then there's the entertaining fan boys on the front row doing their best basketball referee impressions while begging for a traveling call. Oh, th e travesty!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you got???



Peace

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

Which foot is the pivot foot? It looks like the right foot to me which he lifts and then replants. You could make the same argument for the left foot as well.

I think its a travel before he loses control of the ball and falls down.