Time for a Rule Review?

[coachjdb]

not looking for a rule review was just confirming the rule to begin with. Just seems odd that their is no effect to the course of play on the court when a personal foul is committed. I get it that there is a player/team foul but that does not address course of play. I assume this is a good rule to discourage the player from the tech in the first place. Thanks for the responses.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by coachjdb

not looking for a rule review was just confirming the rule to begin with. Just seems odd that their is no effect to the course of play on the court when a personal foul is committed. I get it that there is a player/team foul but that does not address course of play. I assume this is a good rule to discourage the player from the tech in the first place. Thanks for the responses.

Sorry for the confusion

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by coachjdb

not looking for a rule review was just confirming the rule to begin with. Just seems odd that their is no effect to the course of play on the court when a personal foul is committed. I get it that there is a player/team foul but that does not address course of play. I assume this is a good rule to discourage the player from the tech in the first place. Thanks for the responses.

In high school, they have essentially determined that all technical fouls carry the penalty of two shots and the ball. It's intentionally a more severe penalty.

My question for you is this. In the other post, you noted that you are a "Terps fan who is also a ref" or something like that. What level do you officiate?

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Adam

In high school, they have essentially determined that all technical fouls carry the penalty of two shots and the ball. It's intentionally a more severe penalty.

BNR won't care, but going back to the history comments, it is more precise to say that HS did not follow NCAA in lessening the punishment for certain Ts. Ts in both HS and NCAA used to be 1 FT and the ball. Around the same time (earlyish 80s?) they each went to 2 FTs. Some time later NCAA introduced POI for some Ts.

(Many may recall the infamous Fab Five excessive time out call by Chris Weber, which turned over the ball in addition to the FTs.)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

BNR won't care, but going back to the history comments, it is more precise to say that HS did not follow NCAA in lessening the punishment for certain Ts. Ts in both HS and NCAA used to be 1 FT and the ball. Around the same time (earlyish 80s?) they each went to 2 FTs. Some time later NCAA introduced POI for some Ts.

(Many may recall the infamous Fab Five excessive time out call by Chris Weber, which turned over the ball in addition to the FTs.)

We're back to 1 FT for all Class B and Administrative T's on the men's side.

NCAA-W lose possession for an excessive time-out.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

We're back to 1 FT for all Class B and Administrative T's on the men's side.

Thanks, I had forgotten that -- I'm obviously not watching enough hoops on TV! And it's a distinction I like -- 1 FT for the "technical" technical fouls makes a lot of sense to me. (Not that anyone cares what I think makes sense . . .)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Thanks, I had forgotten that -- I'm obviously not watching enough hoops on TV! And it's a distinction I like -- 1 FT for the "technical" technical fouls makes a lot of sense to me. (Not that anyone cares what I think makes sense . . .)

I would like for NFHS to at least go to POI for those types of infractions.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would like for NFHS to at least go to POI for those types of infractions.

They get stupid enough at this level. I'm fine with the "extra" penalty.

[jTheUmp]

I have the opposite opinion... I'd prefer the NFHS stay as it is, for two reasons:
1) it's simpler to remember: Enforce in order of occurrence.
2) It makes technical fouls more costly in situations exactly like is described in the OP. If you ("you" meaning: a team/player) don't like it, don't get a T... simple as that.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

In high school, they have essentially determined that all technical fouls carry the penalty of two shots and the ball. It's intentionally a more severe penalty.

My question for you is this. In the other post, you noted that you are a "Terps fan who is also a ref" or something like that. What level do you officiate?

I'm a college official who is the father of a Terps fan, does that count?

And I know Randy Edsall's brother.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm a college official who is the father of a Terps fan, does that count?

And I know Randy Edsall's brother.

I know of a college basketball official named Duke Edsall.

Who is this Randy Edsall that you speak of?