Charge Or Block

[xyrph]

Would you call this a charge or a block?

[BlueDevilRef]

From that angle, looks like the defender hip checked and I would have had a block. Not her side of the lane but did C have a better angle as well?

[VaTerp]

The defender is not legal at the time of contact so there must have been an elbow or other contact initiated with the arm of the offensive player.

Impossible to know from the camera angle but that's my guess based on the call and the way the defender fell.

BTW- I do not like that mechanic on the prelim. I like to see some indication that we are going the other way. But that's just me.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

The defender is not legal at the time of contact so there must have been an elbow or other contact initiated with the arm of the offensive player.

Impossible to know from the camera angle but that's my guess based on the call and the way the defender fell.

BTW- I do not like that mechanic on the prelim. I like to see some indication that we are going the other way. But that's just me.

The camera angle was a lot better of an angle than calling a foul in the paint from the backcourt.

I have a block...turned sideways and stepped into the dribbler as the dribbler went around her. There is nothing the trail could have possibly seen from where he was for that to have been a player control foul.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The camera angle was a lot better of an angle than calling a foul in the paint from the backcourt.

I have a block...turned sideways and stepped into the dribbler as the dribbler went around her. There is nothing the trail could have possibly seen from where he was for that to have been a player control foul.

Disagree. He's not in the backcourt and the contact occurs at the FT line. To say that he is calling something in the paint from the backcourt is embellishing, just a bit.

And his angle on the court is better than that of the camera to get a look between the players and see if there was any displacement from the arm of the offensive player. So he definitely could have seen something that led him to the PC call.

Now, absent any displacement with the arm its an obvious blocking foul.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Disagree. He's not in the backcourt and the contact occurs at the FT line. To say that he is calling something in the paint from the backcourt is embellishing, just a bit.

And his angle on the court is better than that of the camera to get a look between the players and see if there was any displacement from the arm of the offensive player. So he definitely could have seen something that led him to the PC call.

Now, absent any displacement with the arm its an obvious blocking foul.

OK, you're right, he comes into the frontcourt after the contact just in time to blow the whistle....and, ok, it was at the FT line. Last time I checked, the FT line was considered in the paint.

Either way, he is way too far from that play to be credible. It wasn't like those players were gazelles. I would have expected him to be well into the frontcourt before contact with the pace those players were going, not just as he blows the whistle from over 30 feet away.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The camera angle was a lot better of an angle than calling a foul in the paint from the backcourt.

I have a block...turned sideways and stepped into the dribbler as the dribbler went around her. There is nothing the trail could have possibly seen from where he was for that to have been a player control foul.

I agree with everything here. This is a block.

[Welpe]

Block or maybe nothing.

[NNJOfficial]

Definitely a block and ideally the lead should have made that call. The trail is too far away, which is presumably why he kicked the call.


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[JetMetFan]

I'm inclined to say "nothing," though if there was a call it would be on the defense because the BH/D's RSBQ was slightly affected. At any rate, PC isn't on the menu for me on this play.

[pizanno]

I see no evidence of a push off. Dribbler right hand goes to gather.

Defender falls/sits like a chair is pulled out which is a pretty good indicator of a flop.

No call or block. If the trail was truly engaged and had the best angle, then he missed the carry, first.

Originally Posted by pizanno

If the trail was truly engaged and had the best angle, then he missed the carry, first.

That's not a carry.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That's not a carry.

I agree with you.

[OKREF]

I don't think I have anything on this play. Certainly isn't a PC.