Home and visitor book not matching

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Never would this have been tolerated back when "The Eagle" was at the table assisting the floor officials!


BTW, I wonder where he landed?

This is hilarious. Great post.

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

This is hilarious. Great post.

Yep! CHSeagle! Classic!

[LRZ]

Typically, we consider the home book the official record, but it's not necessarily so. Note Rule 2-4-3: "The referee shall designate the official scorebook and official scorer prior to the scheduled starting time of the game." I seem to recall, years ago, the rules did provide for the home book as official, but that may simply be my aging, faulty memory.

I work a lot of games below the varsity level, in middle school or junior high, where it is not unusual to have students working the book and clock. On rare occasions, where the home scorer is a novice and the visitor has some experience, I've designated the visitor's book as official. In any event, I always remind both scorers to check score and fouls constantly so we can catch any discrepancies promptly.

[deecee]

I had one BV occassion where i go to check the book before the game started and the home book was completely only half done and the scorekeeper no where in sight. The visiting book was complete and their scorer was there and ready to go. I chatted with her for 1 minute and my confidence in her (mostly for being there and ready) was higher than the home book so I made the V book the official book. The home scorer returns with about 3 minutes to tip off and when we go to meet the coaches says something along the lines of the book is ready if you want to check it. I told him no need that the V book was the designated official book for the game.

He was upset and told the HC who then questioned my decision. As the HC started talking I told him I can make the H book the official book but then There will be an administrative T against his team for the book not being ready in time. Can you guess which book was the official book for the game?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by deecee

There will be an administrative T against his team for the book not being ready in time.

The book doesn't need to be ready in time. The teams just need to give the information to the scorer(s) in time. And, since the V book was complete, my guess is that the teams complied with that.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The book doesn't need to be ready in time. The teams just need to give the information to the scorer(s) in time. And, since the V book was complete, my guess is that the teams complied with that.

I was thinking deecee may have said that only because he wanted the v-book to be official, but that too may be a bad idea because it gives the coach wrong information for the future.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The book doesn't need to be ready in time. The teams just need to give the information to the scorer(s) in time. And, since the V book was complete, my guess is that the teams complied with that.

At the time I misspoke and we also dodged another contentious moment in that the information that the V scorer copied had the correct starters. IF that wasn't the case I could see any hope of communication with the H coach would have probably ended there for the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by deecee

At the time I misspoke and we also dodged another contentious moment in that the information that the V scorer copied had the correct starters. IF that wasn't the case I could see any hope of communication with the H coach would have probably ended there for the game.

If V is designated "official" and V mis-copies the starters, then that's still not an issue.

(Well, it's not a T. It can lead to an issue if H now doesn't trust V.)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Typically, we consider the home book the official record, but it's not necessarily so. Note Rule 2-4-3: "The referee shall designate the official scorebook and official scorer prior to the scheduled starting time of the game." I seem to recall, years ago, the rules did provide for the home book as official, but that may simply be my aging, faulty memory.

I work a lot of games below the varsity level, in middle school or junior high, where it is not unusual to have students working the book and clock. On rare occasions, where the home scorer is a novice and the visitor has some experience, I've designated the visitor's book as official. In any event, I always remind both scorers to check score and fouls constantly so we can catch any discrepancies promptly.

2-11-11. Home book shall be official…unless R rules otherwise.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by BigCat

2-11-11. Home book shall be official…unless R rules otherwise.

I thought it was once mandatory. But I'm even older than MTD and I don't have an attic where I keep old rule books, so I could be wrong.