Starting Dribble from floor

[OfficialBFish]

Had this situation this weekend. A1 dives to the floor for loose ball, coach yells, "You can dribble to get up!". Player starts a dribble and lifts a foot off the ground simultaneously, and then fully stands up while continuing to dribble. My partner calls an illegal dribble, which drives the coach and several fans in the stands absolutely berserk. Her explanation was that according to the handbook, a pivot foot must be established before you can start a dribble. I've never heard the rule applied in this context before, and I've never heard of a player not being able to dribble in order to stand up. Anyone have anything to prove/disprove the validity of her call??

[DrPete]

I've never heard of that rule either. The definition of a travel speaks of releasing the ball before the pivot foot is lifted, but that assumes that the player is already standing.
You could also catch a pass while airborne and start a dribble before any foot touched the floor. A pivot foot does not need to be established before a dribble starts.


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[BigCat]

4.44.5b and c. Player dives for losse ball. When he is done sliding and ends on back or stomach he can, pass,shoot or start dribble. If on back he can sit up.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OfficialBFish

Her explanation was that according to the handbook, a pivot foot must be established before you can start a dribble.

Well, 4-dribble does say, I think, that the dribble begins when the ball is batted to the floor before the pivot foot is lifted. (someone check my recollection on this)

So, I guess one interp would be that if there is no pivot foot to be potentially lifted, there can be no dribble.

But, that interp would be wrong.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DrPete

I've never heard of that rule either. The definition of a travel speaks of releasing the ball before the pivot foot is lifted, but that assumes that the player is already standing.
You could also catch a pass while airborne and start a dribble before any foot touched the floor. A pivot foot does not need to be established before a dribble starts.


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Additionally, a standing player who catches the ball with both feet on the floor isn't required to pivot before being permitted to dribble.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by OfficialBFish

Had this situation this weekend. A1 dives to the floor for loose ball, coach yells, "You can dribble to get up!". Player starts a dribble and lifts a foot off the ground simultaneously, and then fully stands up while continuing to dribble. My partner calls an illegal dribble, which drives the coach and several fans in the stands absolutely berserk. Her explanation was that according to the handbook, a pivot foot must be established before you can start a dribble. I've never heard the rule applied in this context before, and I've never heard of a player not being able to dribble in order to stand up. Anyone have anything to prove/disprove the validity of her call??

BigCat sited a case book that proves her wrong.

I've never seen or heard of this rule screwed up(Not letting a player start a dribble before getting up). First for everything.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Player dives for lose ball. When he is done sliding and ends on back or stomach he can, pass, shoot, or start dribble. If on back he can sit up.

Add "request a timeout".

4.44.5 SITUATION B: A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control.
A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach. What can A1 do without
violating? RULING: A1 may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a time-out. Once
A1 has the ball and is no longer sliding, he/she may not roll over. If flat on his/her
back, A1 may sit up without violating. Any attempt to get to the feet is traveling
unless A1 is dribbling. It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises
and is first to touch the ball. (4-44-5b)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dad

BigCat sited a case book that proves her wrong.

I've never seen or heard of this rule screwed up(Not letting a player start a dribble before getting up). First for everything.

You have just been cited by the forum's spelling police.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You have just been cited by the forum's spelling police.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Got me.

Do you have a folder with 50,000 random photos?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

Do you have a folder with 50,000 random photos?

Yes. It's called the Google. Thank you Al Gore.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes. It's called the Google. Thank you Al Gore.

Wise ass!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Wise ass!

Question asked and answered.