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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:36pm
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It's not that simple, imo.

He's the top assigner in the state and is a big timer with NFHS. I said what I would do in the situation I gave to attempt to fix screwing up the entire game. Is it a good choice? Ehh, idk, but I'm screwed anyway.

If I muck up a call this bad and it's a deciding factor in who wins the game -- goodbye schedule. We don't get to royally screw up a game around here and continue to officiate at a high level. At least for any given year, and yes some good collegiate officials have lost their HS schedules mucking up a game.

I royally mucked up a HS game once so far. I fixed it not following the rules so I wouldn't decide the game. I was fine with my decision and understood I'd be getting freshman games the rest of the year. Personally, I'd rather be punished for fixing my oops with missing two rules than I would being punished for one and deciding the game.
I agree with the sentiment, and I certainly wouldn't want to mess something up that badly at such a crucial time that it appears to be a deciding factor in who wins the game (I say appears, because I do not believe any one play can or should be considered the deciding factor for a game), and I realize that as an official, you are going to be screwed either way. However, I cannot see myself compounding one mistake, no matter how egregious, with another. I would rather bite the bullet and at least have the rules on my side as to what was done after the first mistake occurred.
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:48pm
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I agree with the sentiment, and I certainly wouldn't want to mess something up that badly at such a crucial time that it appears to be a deciding factor in who wins the game (I say appears, because I do not believe any one play can or should be considered the deciding factor for a game), and I realize that as an official, you are going to be screwed either way. However, I cannot see myself compounding one mistake, no matter how egregious, with another. I would rather bite the bullet and at least have the rules on my side as to what was done after the first mistake occurred.
It has to be egregious for me to fix it. 99% of the time I agree with you, but here's where I don't(opinion):

H is up by one. V hits the ball out of bounds with two seconds to go. I call H ball, but V runs out of bounds and I give it to them. V1 passes to V2 and V2 scores a basket - buzzer. Even if the rules don't allow me to fix this, I'm doing it anyway.
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:20pm
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It has to be egregious for me to fix it. 99% of the time I agree with you, but here's where I don't(opinion):

H is up by one. V hits the ball out of bounds with two seconds to go. I call H ball, but V runs out of bounds and I give it to them. V1 passes to V2 and V2 scores a basket - buzzer. Even if the rules don't allow me to fix this, I'm doing it anyway.
OMG!!!

You are going to blatantly cheat the visiting team and go directly against a very clearly written ruling. You shouldn't be officiating.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:23am
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OMG!!!

You are going to blatantly cheat the visiting team and go directly against a very clearly written ruling. You shouldn't be officiating.
Cheat the cheating team out of cheating.

The day my competence is low enough for this to happen I'm retiring anyway. May as well retire giving you an ulcer.
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