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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 01:10pm
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I would say whomever attends the pre-game meeting is the head coach. This is no different than doing a sub varsity game where the "JV" coach is the head coach for the game. I have had the Varsity coach on the bench, when s/he stands up and wants to argue, I remind them, that while they are important, they are not the head coach for the game and are subject to being bench personnel.
No they aren't.

They are an ASSistant for that game if they are on the bench. Treat them accordingly.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 01:12pm
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When I have this, I make them choose right away. I'm not going to play a guessing game of who is the head coach, and I'm not going to wait until the game starts to know. If neither stands before one requests a timeout, I want to know who to listen to. If a player needs to be replaced before one of them stands, I want to know who to talk to. If a bench player gets a T before one of them stands, I want to know who gets the indirect T. Advise them they need to pick before the game starts, give them a minute to sort it out in "private," then get the answer.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 02:36pm
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When I have this, I make them choose right away. I'm not going to play a guessing game of who is the head coach, and I'm not going to wait until the game starts to know. If neither stands before one requests a timeout, I want to know who to listen to. If a player needs to be replaced before one of them stands, I want to know who to talk to. If a bench player gets a T before one of them stands, I want to know who gets the indirect T. Advise them they need to pick before the game starts, give them a minute to sort it out in "private," then get the answer.
When I'm working a team I've never worked before, I ask when we go over for handshakes "who's the boss?". I have partners who will ask the players who the HC is during warm-ups. There is really no excuse for us not to garner that information prior to tip-off.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 02:37pm
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When I'm working a team I've never worked before, I ask when we go over for handshakes "who's the boss?". I have partners who will ask the players who the HC is during warm-ups. There is really no excuse for us not to garner that information prior to tip-off.
With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 02:42pm
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With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.
In Virginia we still do a players only captains meeting at mid court, usually between the 15 and 10 minute mark, and then meet and greet the coaches in front of their respective benches somewhere around the 2:30 mark of pre-games. At that time I'll ask who the HC is if I don't already know or its not clear.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 03:16pm
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With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.
We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 03:33pm
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With the change in the pre-game conference contained in this year's Official's Manual, which now calls for ONE conference that includes the captains and the head coaches, this should be very easy information to get at that time. Call for the head coach from each team to join in the pow wow, and you have your information.
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In Virginia we still do a players only captains meeting at mid court, usually between the 15 and 10 minute mark, and then meet and greet the coaches in front of their respective benches somewhere around the 2:30 mark of pre-games. At that time I'll ask who the HC is if I don't already know or its not clear.
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We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.
When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?
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When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?
I don't sit on the VHSL basketball committee, so I can't give you that answer. No one around here ever discusses it, go figure.
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When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?
I do what my state wants and they have a pregame protocol we are to follow.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 09:56pm
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When do you all intend to join the rest of us in following what NF wants?
In AZ we don't do it either. We do captains at 8:00 and coaches @ 2:00.
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 04:30pm
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We don't do that in Wisconsin, either. Still a captain's meeting at 12 minutes and greet the coach at 1:30.
We had a Wisconsin team in Minnesota last week and the coach had a hard time figuring out he needed to be at the 12 minute conference.
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We had a Wisconsin team in Minnesota last week and the coach had a hard time figuring out he needed to be at the 12 minute conference.
Is that a requirement in your state? The conference at a certain time is only a recommendation that is not always followed for multiple reasons.

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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 01:16pm
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Old Tue Jan 05, 2016, 01:29pm
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Only one is going to be the head coach and the other is going to be normal bench personnel that is going to sit just like the players or statistician. It is that simple.

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One HC. As someone once said here, deal with the organ grinder, not the monkey.
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