Which Ref Is Correct?

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

I usually don't post, just lurk around. I had to respond to this. What did 4 do that would even remotely deserve a T? She clapped when she thought the foul was on white. When it went against her, she walked off the floor. Why would you give a coach a moment to react and calm down, but not a player? A coach is an adult who should be setting an example for his team. A player is a kid who is involved physically and emotionally in the game. Not being critical, really curious on your reasoning.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by rlarry

I usually don't post, just lurk around. I had to respond to this. What did 4 do that would even remotely deserve a T? She clapped when she thought the foul was on white. When it went against her, she walked off the floor. Why would you give a coach a moment to react and calm down, but not a player? A coach is an adult who should be setting an example for his team. A player is a kid who is involved physically and emotionally in the game. Not being critical, really curious on your reasoning.

Thinking the same thing. A tech never even went through my head when I saw the reaction.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

Quit looking for T's, they'll come to you. Her reaction was celebratory as she thought the foul was on the offense.

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[chymechowder]

so was the foul on Team B? for crashing thru the screen?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

so was the foul on Team B? for crashing thru the screen?

Yes.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

Really, for that? You have a play where a foul could reasonably be called on either player and a spontaneous reaction clearly looks like she thinks the call is in her favor. And when the reaction is first over, she stops.

To me that is not very good GM if you give her a T and this is the only incident or situation she reacts. She would have to have done a lot more and clearly understand that the foul was not on her. But she seems to think the foul was in her favor.

Peace

[BillyMac]

No technical foul. Not even for all the tea in China.

[Rich]

I was working a boys playoff game about 5-6 years ago. Still back when we worked 2-person in the first few rounds.

OT. Close game, still, about 90 seconds left. Packed gym. Great atmosphere.

Visiting defender tried to steal the ball, got the arm of the ball handler. I called a foul. The player, already moving in that direction, threw his arms up in the air and ran from the front court all the way to the other end of the floor with his arms in the air.

I called a technical foul for the reaction. 4 free throws later....

I still wonder if I should've given a bit more rope on that one, years later.

Back to this play: There's no way I'd even consider a technical foul here. I'm still confused what the official called myself.

I didn't say I would whack the girl in this exact situation. I said I would whack the girl if I called the foul on her, she knew it, and she clapped and waved her arms at me like that. I don't go looking for T's but I'm not afraid to take care of business when needed.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I didn't say I would whack the girl in this exact situation. I said I would whack the girl if I called the foul on her, she knew it, and she clapped and waved her arms at me like that. I don't go looking for T's but I'm not afraid to take care of business when needed.

I wouldn't call this taking care of business. More like taking care of a mess, which you'll have after you call a T.

This is like telling your wife you'll take out the trash. Tipping the trash upside down and spilling it all over the place. Then picking it all up and wanting to claim credit.

Originally Posted by Dad

I wouldn't call this taking care of business. More like taking care of a mess, which you'll have after you call a T.

This is like telling your wife you'll take out the trash. Tipping the trash upside down and spilling it all over the place. Then picking it all up and wanting to claim credit.

Again, I DID NOT SAY I WOULD WHACK IN THIS SITUATION. I changed the parameters of the situation and said I would PROBABLY whack in MY SPECIFIC SITUATION. Everyone clear?

[JRutledge]

If a reaction is immediate and not prolonged, I have a really hard time giving anyone a T unless they have been reacting in a similar way multiple times. You can always talk to a player to tell them to knock it off if you think it is something that is directed at you. Players are always going to show some disappointment in a call or two during a game.

It has nothing to do with being afraid to take care of business, but if this is a T, you will be calling many of them over the course of your career that others will pass on. Just sayin....

Peace

[Dad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If a reaction is immediate and not prolonged, I have a really hard time giving anyone a T unless they have been reacting in a similar way multiple times. You can always talk to a player to tell them to knock it off if you think it is something that is directed at you. Players are always going to show some disappointment in a call or two during a game.

It has nothing to do with being afraid to take care of business, but if this is a T, you will be calling many of them over the course of your career that others will pass on. Just sayin....

Peace

I look for multiple reactions. Depending on how bad the first one is, after the first 1-2 reactions I'll tell the coach to stop it before I do. After that I've rarely ever had an issue. Even if I throw a T later for more reactions I've never had a coach surprised at my call or do anything goofy to deserve a T.