Which Ref Is Correct?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Agreed. Back to my original post. Anybody consider a technical for 4?

Nope. She had a 2-second meltdown because she knew it was her fifth. Didn't seemed to be directed at anyone but herself. I'll give a little leeway for personal frustration. If she had persisted and/or directed her attention to an official....or said a magic word....then I have a different outcome. But by the video itself, I've got nothing.

Had a situation like this the other day. B1 runs up on A1 who had just recovered a loose ball along the endline. Bumped her marginally, but enough to cause A1 to step OOB, so....boop! B1 shouted something in frustration but it was brief and unintelligible. So I let it go. Until, when I was moving to report, she added some choice words that were just loud enough for me to hear, and very intelligible this time. Boop!

If you take a mile when I give you an inch, I will serve you my finest cup of tea.

[xyrph]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Nope. She had a 2-second meltdown because she knew it was her fifth. Didn't seemed to be directed at anyone but herself.

This is not what you are seeing, if you are referring to her little jump and clap. At that instant she is celebrating because the ref just called the foul on white.

You can confirm this by watching the reaction of the the white team's coach. When he first hears the whistle he looks at the ref and cannot believe that the call was against his team.

Much later on after the ref meeting, Black 4 is informed it is her foul and fifth and she does not have any display at that point that I can see or hear.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by xyrph

This is not what you are seeing, if you are referring to her little jump and clap. At that instant she is celebrating because the ref just called the foul on white.

You can confirm this by watching the reaction of the the white team's coach. When he first hears the whistle he looks at the ref an cannot believe that the call was against his team.

Much later on after the ref meeting Black 4 is informed it is her foul and fifth and she does not have any display at that point that I can see or hear.

Instead of posting these cryptic posts, would you please post what happened so we can make informed statements.

Originally Posted by OKREF

Instead of posting these cryptic posts, would you please post what happened so we can make informed statements.

What about that is cryptic? Seems like a decent analysis of the situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What about that is cryptic? Seems like a decent analysis of the situation.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by xyrph

This is not what you are seeing, if you are referring to her little jump and clap. At that instant she is celebrating because the ref just called the foul on white.

You can confirm this by watching the reaction of the the white team's coach. When he first hears the whistle he looks at the ref an cannot believe that the call was against his team.

Much later on after the ref meeting Black 4 is informed it is her foul and fifth and she does not have any display at that point that I can see or hear.

You know I thought that might be what happened, but went off of others' impressions that it was a negative reaction. That's what I get for being a lemming....

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by xyrph

This is not what you are seeing, if you are referring to her little jump and clap. At that instant she is celebrating because the ref just called the foul on white.

You can confirm this by watching the reaction of the the white team's coach. When he first hears the whistle he looks at the ref and cannot believe that the call was against his team.

Much later on after the ref meeting, Black 4 is informed it is her foul and fifth and she does not have any display at that point that I can see or hear.

here is what I see. Ref blows whistle and points wrong direction. 4 is happy, white coach unhappy. Ref points at 4 almost immediately. I think the call was on 4 the entire time. He just pointed wrong direction.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by BigCat

here is what I see. Ref blows whistle and points wrong direction. 4 is happy, white coach unhappy. Ref points at 4 almost immediately. I think the call was on 4 the entire time. He just pointed wrong direction.

Yup. Happens.

Lead just came in to clarify.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

Yup. Happens.

Lead just came in to clarify.

The big fellow needs a lot more bounce in his step. Like to see a lot more effort...

[Dad]

T initially calls it on white.

Points and reports foul on black.

Table is holding up for 5th foul

L is confused as to what's going on?

I would be confused if I were his partner.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by xyrph

This is not what you are seeing, if you are referring to her little jump and clap. At that instant she is celebrating because the ref just called the foul on white.

You can confirm this by watching the reaction of the the white team's coach. When he first hears the whistle he looks at the ref and cannot believe that the call was against his team.

Much later on after the ref meeting, Black 4 is informed it is her foul and fifth and she does not have any display at that point that I can see or hear.

That's what I'm seeing as well. The T's mechanics are nonexistent so given what he did (i.e., point the other way) it makes sense #4 Black was happy.

Frankly, I'd like to see what sort of rating the T received for the game. That play alone would've done him in as far as I'm concerned.

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

I usually don't post, just lurk around. I had to respond to this. What did 4 do that would even remotely deserve a T? She clapped when she thought the foul was on white. When it went against her, she walked off the floor. Why would you give a coach a moment to react and calm down, but not a player? A coach is an adult who should be setting an example for his team. A player is a kid who is involved physically and emotionally in the game. Not being critical, really curious on your reasoning.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by rlarry

I usually don't post, just lurk around. I had to respond to this. What did 4 do that would even remotely deserve a T? She clapped when she thought the foul was on white. When it went against her, she walked off the floor. Why would you give a coach a moment to react and calm down, but not a player? A coach is an adult who should be setting an example for his team. A player is a kid who is involved physically and emotionally in the game. Not being critical, really curious on your reasoning.

Thinking the same thing. A tech never even went through my head when I saw the reaction.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I call that foul on B4 and she waves her arms at me like that then I'm probabaly whacking her. The key for me is whether she is looking at me or not. If yes, she is probably showing me up. If no, probably mad at herself. I am way more likely to give a coach a moment to react and calm down, players don't get as much rope.

Quit looking for T's, they'll come to you. Her reaction was celebratory as she thought the foul was on the offense.

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