Two Entire Rosters Suspended

[WhistlesAndStripes]

[QUOTE=Refhoop;974275]

Originally Posted by Dad

Serious question: Do you have any idea what you're talking about or just saying whatever comes to mind?



Yes, putting someone's name on a lawsuit is not too big deal, particularly if the kid is injured bad enough...



https://cdn.streamable.com/video/75a...dd987e691a.mp4

Why are the girls in this video even allowed on the court with those illegal headbands??

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Why are the girls in this video even allowed on the court with those illegal headbands??

This is what happens when officials chose to ignore rules. The players think that if they can get away with headbands with extensions, then they can get away with anything, including a rock 'em sock 'em fight. Allowing headbands with extensions is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Location: A packed courtroom on a hot and humid afternoon. Ceiling fans circle overhead, squeaking as they turn, but the courtroom is still uncomfortably hot.
Attorney (approaching the judge): Your honor, I would like to submit this headband with extensions as exhibit A.
Attorney (turning to the defendant) : Sir, did you observe that the players were wearing headbands with extensions as they were warming up for the game?
Official (a bead of sweat dripping down his cheek): I'm taking the fifth amendment and refuse to answer on the ground it may tend to incriminate me.

And ... scene.

[Raymond]

[QUOTE=Whistles & Stripes;974297]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Why are the girls in this video even allowed on the court with those illegal headbands??

Maybe because this game was played when the headband rule was different?

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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Sub varsity game:Very often there is only one coach and he left the other immature minors to run on the court... likely they will follow him - unfortunately.
So to "stir the pot"
Do we really need the coach on the floor for a fight?
I was at the NASO conference in STL this summer and during a presentation, an attorney said: Good officials Don't let athletes fight during their game"... He goes on to say: Don't think you won't be sued if a kid gets hurt during that fight and there's video footage of you standing there watching.
His illustration was NBA officals: Arguably the best officials in our game.
His question: Do you ever see NBA Officials backing away from a fight?
Answer: Hell no! They are dealing with the strongest basketball players in the world and they stop the fight - always!

RefHoop:

Was the lawyer Alan Goldberger by any chance?

MTD, Sr.

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

RefHoop:

Was the lawyer Alan Goldberger by any chance?

MTD, Sr.

Yup!

[SC Official]

My state has said that we are not to get involved in breaking up a fracas.

That's all the guidance I care about.

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by SC Official

My state has said that we are not to get involved in breaking up a fracas.

That's all the guidance I care about.

Imagine this being your kid.

https://youtu.be/iBXzVvOxzDk

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Imagine this being your kid.

https://youtu.be/iBXzVvOxzDk

What's your point? I would never be working my kids' games, and if I was a fan I certainly wouldn't be suing the officials for not getting involved.

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by SC Official

What's your point? I would never be working my kids' games, and if I was a fan I certainly wouldn't be suing the officials for not getting involved.

My point was more about the mayhem and that kid needing help.
The first video shows an official grabbing a female.
The second video shows a high school official seeing the need to intervene.
I'm 100% in favor of not grabbing kids, but I just wouldn't say we should never do whats necessary or that we only face liability for getting involved...
I stand by my original position: the L in the original posted video is doing very little... no whistle, no voice and no involvement.
A hands-off approach may save us from physical harm, but it won't create a safer situation for the kids and it doesn't necessarily mitigate liability.
Good discussing men - I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Yup!

I know Allan, and I do not believe that he would make such a statement.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I know Allan, and I do not believe that he would make such a statement.

MTD, Sr.

I don't watch much NBA, so perhaps someone could confirm for me whether they actually get physically involved once punches are actually thrown.

Note, it doesn't change my mind on what we should do at the high school level because of all the issues already mentioned.

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't watch much NBA, so perhaps someone could confirm for me whether they actually get physically involved once punches are actually thrown.

Note, it doesn't change my mind on what we should do at the high school level because of all the issues already mentioned.

https://youtu.be/wIyV4Zufynw is a youtube compilation of fights.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't watch much NBA, so perhaps someone could confirm for me whether they actually get physically involved once punches are actually thrown.

Note, it doesn't change my mind on what we should do at the high school level because of all the issues already mentioned.

NBA officials will do all they can to stop altercations...including using physical force. They also have the luxury of replay to penalize any and all things that need to be penalized.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by APG

NBA officials will do all they can to stop altercations...including using physical force. They also have the luxury of replay to penalize any and all things that need to be penalized.

Very true. They are also all adults and both players and officials are operating within a wholly controlled commercial contractural environment.

You can't compare the NBA with interscholastic sports - the disparaties are numerous and major. They are very different animals.....

[Refhoop]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I know Allan, and I do not believe that he would make such a statement.

MTD, Sr.

I'm not making it up - I attended two of his sessions... but by all means ask him and confirm.

To never grab a player fighting is a conundrum for me and an axiom for seemingly most on this forum... which I respect.
BTW: When I get a elementary school fight, I just hold them upside down till the calm down... that always works.