Fan Ejected

[j51969]

Personally, I think officials worry to much about how something looks. If it has risen to this point with any fan, player, or coach deal with it and move on. It was already a disruption, so quickly pause and have GM deal with it. I take none of this personally. I don't officiate for the players, coaches, or fans. I do it because I enjoy it. When that's not the case anymore I will quit.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by j51969

Personally, I think officials worry to much about how something looks. If it has risen to this point with any fan, player, or coach deal with it and move on. It was already a disruption, so quickly pause and have GM deal with it. I take none of this personally. I don't officiate for the players, coaches, or fans. I do it because I enjoy it. When that's not the case anymore I will quit.

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

[j51969]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

Why does my Opinion have to automatically warrant me to stop officiating. It's like the 2nd or 3rd time you've told someone to stop officiating because they don't agree with you. I do not believe that giving T's to fans is a best practice. I can't even think of a reason to do this. Other than the toilet paper toss that everyone know is coming. Now if that's what you, or your organization feels is needed by all means whack away. If a situation has risen to the point that the fans have become such a determent to the game; a T is the least of your problems.

Your name might say "Dad", but your not mine. I'll continue to officiate in manner consisant with the principles of my state and local association. If I want to go back to doing grade school and middle school ball i'll consider your advice.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by j51969

Why does my Opinion have to automatically warrant me to stop officiating. It's like the 2nd or 3rd time you've told someone to stop officiating because they don't agree with you. I do not believe that giving T's to fans is a best practice. I can't even think of a reason to do this. Other than the toilet paper toss that everyone know is coming. Now if that's what you, or your organization feels is needed by all means whack away. If a situation has risen to the point that the fans have become such a determent to the game; a T is the least of your problems.

Your name might say "Dad", but your not mine. I'll continue to officiate in manner consisant with the principles of my state and local association. If I want to go back to doing grade school and middle school ball i'll consider your advice.

It's like the.... zero.

Originally Posted by j51969

I don't officiate for the players, coaches, or fans.

Well, without them you're really not officiating now are you? Get it?

Again, read the missions statement and the officials code of ethics. It is what you signed up for.

I have never given a tech to a fan, but have kicked plenty out. I also don't have unruly games. I think at some point you confused my points -- probably when believing I was trying to insult you.

Dad are my initials, but your comment did get a laugh out of me.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dad

It's like the.... zero.







Well, without them you're really not officiating now are you? Get it?



Again, read the missions statement and the officials code of ethics. It is what you signed up for.



I have never given a tech to a fan, but have kicked plenty out. I also don't have unruly games. I think at some point you confused my points -- probably when believing I was trying to insult you.



Dad are my initials, but your comment did get a laugh out of me.

I've been doing this for 29 years. I'll let you know when I start doing it for the kids.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've been doing this for 29 years. I'll let you know when I start doing it for the kids.

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I'm just addressing the significant portion of people who think it's blasphemous to not nod your head vehemently when they say, "We do it for the kids."

(I have my own kid -- she'll be 11 next month -- and if I'm doing anything for kids it's staying home to be with her.)

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I officiate for numerous reasons, and one of them is definitely "for the kids". I know plenty whose list doesn't include "for the kids" and it shows.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I did not get involve in this for any other reason then I love sports and the sports I officiate and I am competitive to do the job correctly. Never has the "kids" really crossed my mind. I do this because it is fun and I would rather not coach. And I get paid so I would not do it for free.

That code of ethics has nothing to do with why we leave our home. There are other things we can do other than officiate and if the motivation is that narrow most of us would not do this at all. And just by the numbers we often lose, obviously there are people not finding the motivations in the right place to stay. This "It is all about the kids" crap gets on my nerves, certainly with the fact that I do not just do games with kids.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

Is that in response to him saying he does it because he enjoys it?

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Is that in response to him saying he does it because he enjoys it?

Nope, was a response to a play on words.

[Welpe]

Well you're going to have to direct that at several people here. From either knowing them, or the quality of their posts, they are solid officials too.

I do this because it keeps me involved in the sports that I like. The players are for the game is for and I don't lose sight of that fact but I do this primarily for me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

What are you talking about?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

Sorry, you don't get to tell someone he should stop officiating just because he has different reasons than you do for doing it.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

Laughable. This may get my vote for dumbest forum post, for all the reasons already stated.