Fan Ejected

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Dad

I'm not scared to leave my holy ground of varsity games to clean up some wreck ball.

It's not worth me leaving my house for.

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[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's not worth me leaving my house for.

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You clearly don't care about the game...or the children.

Edit: Crap, I just realized that the blue font probably doesn't make a difference for you, does it?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

You clearly don't care about the game...or the children.

Edit: Crap, I just realized that the blue font probably doesn't make a difference for you, does it?

werd

[BillyMac]

Several years ago, I had a prep school fan step onto the court to complain about a call, he actually walked right up to me during a dead ball. No athletic director. No site director. I walked calmly over the home team head coach and told him that the fan had to be removed from the gymnasium. Assistant coach jumped off the bench and said that I couldn't do that. I asked him to sit down. Head coach says that there is no athletic director, or site director to remove the fan. Assistant coach jumps back up to complain, so he gets served a cup of tea. I tell the head coach that we're not playing until the fan was removed. I didn't threaten forfeit, I just said that we're waiting until the fan was removed. Finally, he walked over to the fan, and convinces him leave the gym. First, and only, time in thirty-five years. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by Dad

Then stop officiating.

Without the Officials Code of Ethics or Missions Statement what is the point of being patched?

Laughable. This may get my vote for dumbest forum post, for all the reasons already stated.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

This may get my vote for dumbest forum post ...

bballref3966: You, obviously, haven't read many of my posts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's not worth me leaving my house for.

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Me neither. I like my freedom, because I will go to jail if I kept doing that stuff.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dad

It's like the.... zero.







Well, without them you're really not officiating now are you? Get it?



Again, read the missions statement and the officials code of ethics. It is what you signed up for.



I have never given a tech to a fan, but have kicked plenty out. I also don't have unruly games. I think at some point you confused my points -- probably when believing I was trying to insult you.



Dad are my initials, but your comment did get a laugh out of me.

I've been doing this for 29 years. I'll let you know when I start doing it for the kids.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

bballref3966: You, obviously, haven't read many of my posts.

This may be the second post from Billy Mac that I've ever agreed with.

[mtn335]

I've removed a handful of fans - maybe three in wreck games and exactly two in HS, all for entering the floor to confront me.

The two high school removals were both in the same game, at about the same time, but separate and (as far as I know) unrelated. At halftime of a girls district playoff game last year, a man came out of the stands, walked around the scorers table, and started toward us (we were walking toward the table) in a very confrontational manner. We stopped walking, he was intercepted by an assistant coach, and eye contact with the GM was enough. THEN, while GM was removing this gentleman and we were walking toward the tunnel, another man came around the home bench and started walking backward in front of us, sticking his chest out like he was trying to get us to bump him so he could start a fight. Again, we stopped walking; he turned tail and disappeared. I described him to GM and they found him upstairs in the third quarter.

Just bizarre.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've been doing this for 29 years. I'll let you know when I start doing it for the kids.

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I'm just addressing the significant portion of people who think it's blasphemous to not nod your head vehemently when they say, "We do it for the kids."

(I have my own kid -- she'll be 11 next month -- and if I'm doing anything for kids it's staying home to be with her.)

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I officiate for numerous reasons, and one of them is definitely "for the kids". I know plenty whose list doesn't include "for the kids" and it shows.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dad

We all in some way or another officiate for our own selfish reasons. I wouldn't officiate if I didn't find it enjoyable. I do, however, think that taking the job seriously is important and that includes being professional.

For example:
Officials shall uphold the honor and dignity of the profession in all interactions with student-athletes, coaches, etc.
Officials shall remain mindful that their conduct influences the respect that student-athletes, coaches and the public hold for the profession.

For me, officiating a game involves several parties. I look out for myself first, but I still think it's important to take athletes, coaches, and fans into consideration-- to some extent.

I did not get involve in this for any other reason then I love sports and the sports I officiate and I am competitive to do the job correctly. Never has the "kids" really crossed my mind. I do this because it is fun and I would rather not coach. And I get paid so I would not do it for free.

That code of ethics has nothing to do with why we leave our home. There are other things we can do other than officiate and if the motivation is that narrow most of us would not do this at all. And just by the numbers we often lose, obviously there are people not finding the motivations in the right place to stay. This "It is all about the kids" crap gets on my nerves, certainly with the fact that I do not just do games with kids.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I officiate for numerous reasons, and one of them is definitely "for the kids". I know plenty whose list doesn't include "for the kids" and it shows.

I hope your implication is because someone does not use the "for the kids..." line as their motivation or inspiration that they are not doing a good job? Is an official that works college or pro ball including but not limited to the NBA is doing this for the "kids?"

Peace