Fan Ejected

[crosscountry55]

Travis Ford was ejected (as a fan) from his son's HS varsity game the other night in Stillwater.

Oklahoma State basketball coach Travis Ford ejected from high school game

There may be some media bias and/or inaccuracy in the story. At the very least we don't know exactly what happened or what was said.

My issue, on a larger scale, is that officials should not be ejecting fans, known celebrities or not. That's what game management is for (especially in a big 6A gym like Stillwater HS). At the very least, if an official has an issue, he/she should quietly consult with the game manager during a timeout and mention the issue, then let him/her handle it from there. In this case, it looks like an official actually stopped the game and therefore made a scene. To me, that's very poor form.

6A 3-person varsity crew.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Travis Ford was ejected (as a fan) from his son's HS varsity game the other night in Stillwater.

Oklahoma State basketball coach Travis Ford ejected from high school game

There may be some media bias and/or inaccuracy in the story. At the very least we don't know exactly what happened or what was said.

My issue, on a larger scale, is that officials should not be ejecting fans, known celebrities or not. That's what game management is for (especially in a big 6A gym like Stillwater HS). At the very least, if an official has an issue, he/she should quietly consult with the game manager during a timeout and mention the issue, then let him/her handle it from there. In this case, it looks like an official actually stopped the game and therefore made a scene. To me, that's very poor form.

6A 3-person varsity crew.

Balderdash. I ejected a fan in the first row couple nights ago (second in 14 years). I went to the site admin, pointed at the fan, and said he's done for the night. 5 seconds later there were 3 site personnel by the fan escorting him out.

[UNIgiantslayers]

I was thinking about this last night. I am doing a few junior high games this year as a favor, and last night was the first one. There was no administrator on site, just the coaches. At that point, how would you guys handle an out of control fan. Obviously it's pretty unlikely at a middle school game, but I wasn't really sure what I'd do if it got to that point.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I was thinking about this last night. I am doing a few junior high games this year as a favor, and last night was the first one. There was no administrator on site, just the coaches. At that point, how would you guys handle an out of control fan. Obviously it's pretty unlikely at a middle school game, but I wasn't really sure what I'd do if it got to that point.

If it was clear what team he/she was with I would tell that coach to remove the fan, and if they failed to do it I would forfeit/suspend the game. I'm not going to stay and get abused, and at a MS game no less.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I was thinking about this last night. I am doing a few junior high games this year as a favor, and last night was the first one. There was no administrator on site, just the coaches. At that point, how would you guys handle an out of control fan. Obviously it's pretty unlikely at a middle school game, but I wasn't really sure what I'd do if it got to that point.

Pro bono?

If you're getting paid, it's not a favor.

As to your question, I don't work games in facilities that don't have some sort of game mgmt or site admin whom I can turn to handle situations.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Pro bono?

If you're getting paid, it's not a favor.

As to your question, I don't work games in facilities that don't have some sort of game mgmt or site admin whom I can turn to handle situations.

I understand what you're saying here. I blocked the dates from my assignor because the AD asked me to do them. So yes, I'm getting paid, but it was something that I could have turned down. Which I will do if there is no game administrator at any more of these games.

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

... if there is no game administrator at any more of these games.

If there is no one else then the Home Head Coach is the site game admin.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Pro bono?

If you're getting paid, it's not a favor.

As to your question, I don't work games in facilities that don't have some sort of game mgmt or site admin whom I can turn to handle situations.

Depending on how much he's getting paid....

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by Adam

Depending on how much he's getting paid....

$90. ABC 6 min quarters. C game is pretty brutal. Actually A & B are pretty brutal too. It's fun though, I don't mind doing it as long as everything is organized well. The girl working the table was one of the best I've ever had which was really unexpected.

[refinks]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I was thinking about this last night. I am doing a few junior high games this year as a favor, and last night was the first one. There was no administrator on site, just the coaches. At that point, how would you guys handle an out of control fan. Obviously it's pretty unlikely at a middle school game, but I wasn't really sure what I'd do if it got to that point.

Give the coach a chance to deal with the fan. If the coach refuses to deal with it, or if he can't deal with it (fan refuses to leave), you really only have 2 options: call the game and get the heck out of there, or get law enforcement involved.

[Altor]

Years ago, I watched a fan sitting on the endline pick up the loose ball at his feet, stand and argue with the official for a few seconds before slamming the ball into the ground. The official pointed to the door and the game administrator was there to escort him out shortly thereafter. I don't know how it could have been handled any better by anybody (except the fan).

[j51969]

Originally Posted by deecee

Balderdash. I ejected a fan in the first row couple nights ago (second in 14 years). I went to the site admin, pointed at the fan, and said he's done for the night. 5 seconds later there were 3 site personnel by the fan escorting him out.

+1

I ejected my first fans in years during a Holiday tournament thanksgiving week (6th grade tournament). An Army buddy of mine puts on this every year. I go as a favor to him because most if you not all of the referees are younger official’s (1st -2nd year). It’s an opportunity for mentoring the next group coming up. Championship game and this guy is being as complete a$$. More importantly it finely came to a point where it was effecting the play on the court. Tweet...I go over to my buddy and ask him to remove the parent. Some of the other parents from both sides were already beginning to self-police, but it had to be addressed. Closely followed by a T on that coach whose behavior was also out of line. I have much less tolerance for these kinds of antics at the lower levels. Conduct by fans, and more importantly the coach(es) can directly affect the physical nature of play. Maintaining good order and discipline is part of your job. Even if it happens on very rare occasions.

[Dad]

Buncha wimps,

The rules give us a definitive option to remove fans ourselves. I have gone to ADs or whatever form of management was around when I saw it to be the best fit. I've done it myself when I've seen it to be the best fit. There are obvious advantages to doing it yourself if you understand social constructs and have good judgement. Going to management every time is fine when you haven't been around for a while, but there's better ways to deal with game management.

[Nevadaref]

Don't forget to assess a team technical foul to the side affiliated with the fan.

In a case such as Ford, it is clear which team he is with.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Don't forget to assess a team technical foul to the side affiliated with the fan.

In a case such as Ford, it is clear which team he is with.

I can't really tell with the face what your thoughts are on the subject and I'd like to hear them.

I've kicked out numerous fans and never assessed a team technical foul for it.