Another doozie of a test question

[pfan1981]

Fellow officials,

B1 is attempting a throw-in from the end line after A1's made basket when A2 commits an intentional foul against B2. After B2's free throws, the throw-in for Team B may be anywhere along the end line.

True

False


The rule says that after a made basket a team may run the baseline for the throw-in. Also, if a violation or foul happen near the baseline, the team maintains the ability to run the baseline. I am wanting to apply this logic to the question above but it doesn't state where the intentional foul occurred.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks for the assistance,

pfan

[Valley Man]

Don't have my books with me, but it states "they may run the endline when the designated spot would be on the endline for violations and fouls *except for an intentional or flagrant*".

[Kansas Ref]

The NF uses concise verbiage. Thus when the NF says "...team can make the throw in anywhere along the endline"--it literally means that they can run the endline, yes.

However, what you are asking is this: Does the location of the IF (intentional foul) dictate the throw-in area---if say the IF occurred near the division line while A1 was attempting to make the throw-in from the endline. Does this change the the throw-in area away from the endline and newly positions it near the division line instead?

Is that what you are asking?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

Also, if a violation or foul happen near the baseline, the team maintains the ability to run the baseline.

Read the rule more carefully.

[deecee]

The answer is true because the thrown in MAY be the endline. It MAY also be a sideline. Since the resumption of play is spot nearest the foul I would say True.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

The answer is true because the thrown in MAY be the endline. It MAY also be a sideline. Since the resumption of play is spot nearest the foul I would say True.

It's false. a team retains the privilege of running the end line when a violation or COMMON foul occurs before the throw in ends.
(and the ensuing throw in spot would be on the end line)

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BigCat

It's false. a team retains the privilege of running the end line when a violation or COMMON foul occurs before the throw in ends.

Doh I didn't read the OP. Yes common foul only. That would make it FALSE. Because it won't be anywhere it would be somewhere.

[pfan1981]

7.5.7 SitB reads.....

Team A scores a field goal. B1 picks up the ball after the made basket, then proceeds out of bounds to start the throw-in process. B1 runs along the end line out of bounds while attempting to find an open teammate for the throw-in. Immediately after B1 releases the throw-in pass, (a) the ball is kicked by A2 near the end line; (b) the ball is kicked by A2 near the division line;

Ruling in (a) and (b), A2 violated by kicking the ball. In (a) team B will be awarded a throw-in and retain the right to run the end line on the ensuing throw-in. In (b), Team B will put the ball in play at the designated spot nearest the violation.

A violation near the end line will maintain the ability to run the baseline.



7.5.7 Sit C Reads.....

Team B has scored a field goal and A 2 has the ball along the end line for a throw-in. Team A is not in the bonus. Prior to the ball being thrown inbounds by A1: (a) B1 fouls A2 near A1; (b) B1 fouls A2 at the division line

Ruling: In (a) Team A may throw-in from anywhere out of bounds along the end line following the foul reporting. In (b) the ball will be given to Team A for a throw-in from the spot out of bounds nearest to where the foul occurred.


Can someone point me to the place in the rulebook where it states that an intentional foul supersedes these? I am always wanting to learn and improve and appreciate what this forum has done for my officiating.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

Fellow officials,

B1 is attempting a throw-in from the end line after A1's made basket when A2 commits an intentional foul against B2. After B2's free throws, the throw-in for Team B may be anywhere along the end line.

True

False


The rule says that after a made basket a team may run the baseline for the throw-in. Also, if a violation or foul happen near the baseline, the team maintains the ability to run the baseline. I am wanting to apply this logic to the question above but it doesn't state where the intentional foul occurred.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks for the assistance,

pfan

The answer is currently false for NFHS rules. This was changed about five years ago without any comment or rationale given. I recall first seeing it in the annual online interps, then it made its way to the case book.

The NFHS accomplished this change by inserting the word common in 7-5-7.

I don't like the "new" ruling. I prefer that the offended team didn't lose any privileges due to illegal actions of the opponent.

[j51969]

I wonder what the logic was for adding the term "Common" and changing the rule? However, if I were a coach I would give running the end line everyday for an opportunity to shoot two with the lane cleared.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by j51969

I wonder what the logic was for adding the term "Common" and changing the rule? However, if I were a coach I would give running the end line everyday for an opportunity to shoot two with the lane cleared.

The logic was that team B received 2 FTs as part of the penalty for the IF and that plus possession was enough. They didn't need the right to run too. Plus, it is no longer after a made basket. It is after FTs were taken on the other end.