post play

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

This is from NCAAW, but I think it would apply to HS as well:

This season, the rules committee revised the guidelines for determining legal and illegal contact on a post player in control of the ball in the lane area with her back to the basket. The new guidelines state that in this situation, the defensive post player “may place a forearm or one hand on the
offensive player”. Additionally, in this same scenario, it is illegal for the defensive player to contact the offensive post player with her body, leg or knee.

It is important to remember that, in either case, it is the defensive player who initiates the contact with the offensive player. If an offensive post player with the ball causes contact with the defensive post player and the contact is with non-permitted body parts, this is not a foul on the defensive
player. Also, a defensive post player is never required to vacate a legally established position because of the movement of an offensive player (Rule 4-18.3).

Officials have to know which player initiated the contact. When the defensive player places body
parts in excess of what is permitted on the offensive post player with the ball, a foul shall be called on the defensive player. When the offensive post player causes contact with the defender and this
contact is incidental, a foul shall not be charged to the defender; when this contact is illegal, a player-control foul shall be charged to the off

In high school i don't believe it is legal to use the arm bar to displace OR PREVENT an offensive player from getting to a spot. When an arm bar is extended it's about a foot away from the body. there is space between the two players. either player is entitled to this space if they get there first etc. If an offensive post player without the ball tries to back up into that open space and runs into and is clearly prevented from going back by an arm bar, i believe that is a foul in high school. Holding/blocking etc. It is not in NCAAM.

As Cameron said, i view it the same as sticking an arm out and holding/blocking etc. When the offensive player backs up into the arm bar it has to "collapse" in high school if the offensive player wants to move back into that open space.

If a post player catches the ball, i will give the defender a moment to collapse it, raise hands up etc. if the arm bar isn't on the offensive post player but he dribbles back into a defender's arm bar i need to see the arm bar collapse immediately or hands go up. Defender can't prevent opponent from backing further with the arm bar or leave it on the defender. NCAAM are allowed to keep the arm bar in place until the post player faces up. This is my view of the arm bar. I havnt seen anything that makes the arm bar legal to prevent offense from going anywhere.