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post play
Post play............A5 (on offense and playing in the post area), does not have the ball, and B5 (defending him), has a elbow on him (not extended). So far nothing. Ball gets thrown in to A5, B5 keeps his elbow on him (but not extended). Do we have a foul if B5 keeps his (unextended) elbow on A5?
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If you mean that he happens to be touching him with the elbow or arm bar, then I would agree that is not likely a foul. But if it is being used in any way to either contact the post player, then I likely have a foul. It is really hard to say without actually seeing the action. I will give benefit of the doubt to a player that just has their arm in front of their body in a more natural movement, but when they extend at all, I have a foul.
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Not sure why a defender would want to have his arm trapped between his and the post player's body so he couldn't raise it to block a shot, but I guess that's on him. What you describe sounds legal.
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Our assn has made it clear that an arm bar extended is a foul. Arm bar next to body might be a foul here if they are trying to influence RSBQ, but it's more likely just poor defense
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Has to be an extended arm bar for an automatic foul. Wording was changed to make sure we apply post play to the rule.
10-6 ART. 12 The following acts constitute a foul when committed against a ball handler/dribbler. A player becomes a ball handler when he/she receives the ball. This would include a player in a post position b. Placing an extended arm bar on the player. |
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To me, if the elbow is away from the body with the forearm on the opponent, it is extended....and becomes a foul if the opponent has the ball. |
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If they have it up and the opponent moves into to, I give them a moment to retract it but they can't keep it there any more than they can stick an arm out to the side to restrict movement. |
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OP said wasn't extended so I left it up to his judgement. |
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If the defense moves into the offense, then I use RSBQ to make any call. If the offense "places" one of the four absolutes on the defense, then it's a foul without regard to RSBQ. |
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Though all my games thus far are going longer - I do like the emphasis on freedom of movement. I'm hearing from assignors: 40 plus fouls a game is our new norm; coaches want and expect more fouls! Whether this generation of players will adjust... that's another story! |
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