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Held ball during AP throw in
B1 commits a violation and A1 is awarded the ball out of bounds. During the throw in A1 holds the ball through the boundary plane and B1 ties the ball up to a point that we have a held ball situation.
The AP arrow is pointing to team A. The ball is awarded to team A for another throw in. The same situation occurs and A1 holds the ball through the boundary plane. B1 again grabs and ties the ball up where we have another held ball situation. Which team is awarded the ball? Rules reference? |
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Here is why: 1. A1 has the ball for the AP throw-in. B1 ties up A1. By rule, the throw-in never ended (check out the section in the rule book that explains when a throw-in ends). 2. Since the throw-in never ended, the arrow was never changed. 3. Since the arrow never changed, the resulting AP throw-in is again awarded to A1 (check out the section that lists when the AP arrow is set/changed in the rule book). 4. Once this throw-in ends, the arrow will be changed to point to Team B. The answer to the question all comes down to knowing when the arrow is switched per rule, which also requires knowledge of when a throw-in ends. |
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The exception would be if the violation occurred during a jump ball. The AP arrow would be set to B when the ball is put at A's disposal.
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Casebook Proof these guys were discussing.
6.4.5 Situation B:
During an alternating-possession throw-in, thrower A1 holds the ball through the end-line plane and B1 grabs it, resulting in a held ball. RULING: Since the throw-in had not ended and no violation occurred, it is still A's ball for an alternating-possession throw-in. (4-42-5). Peace
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No. In this case the throw-in has ended.
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I think this sucks. If nothing else has happened (fouls etc), this just punishes team B for playing astute throw in defense. If team A thrower in holds ball over the playing surface and you tie it up 15 times, they get to keep the ball each time it happens? Chalk this up to one of the worst rules of basketball
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All this is logical, but how many times have any of you ever seen this happen? Change the rule, (if anybody knew about it, but they wouldn't) and it encourages the defender to be more active in reaching for the ball, which would result in more technical and intentional fouls.
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I do not think it is enough of a big deal to even change the rule or interpretation. Peace
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Plus, if they do it 15 times in a row, I'm buying a lottery ticket that day and will win the big prize!
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If this is the worst rule ever, then I'd say the basketball rules committee has done a pretty damn good job, because this is something that you could go your entire officiating career and not see happen.
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I'm still saying from all points of my view, referee/fan/former player, this is just silly. Very poor interpretation of throw in ending. I understand the rule and if it ever happened will adjudicate correctly but still think it is silly that the same team would keep getting the ball back no matter how many times it occurred. Nothing said here thus far has changed the fact the defense is getting kinda screwed on this play.
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Good thing you said the underlined part above, because when you start thinking like the bolded part, you become more of a fan than an official and you start to make calls based on what seems fair, not what the rules call for. |
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