Throw-in question

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BigCat

screening definition contains stance shoulder width language.

It does, but what does that have to do with how a player stands for the jump ball?

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It does, but what does that have to do with how a player stands for the jump ball?

If a player is standing with his feet way wide, beyond shoulder width, to simply take up more space on the circle AND an opponent wants part of the space i will make the player take a normal stance. it is an example of what i consider to be the "spot" that every player is entitled to....

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BigCat

If a player is standing with his feet way wide, beyond shoulder width, to simply take up more space on the circle AND an opponent wants part of the space i will make the player take a normal stance. it is an example of what i consider to be the "spot" that every player is entitled to....

Big Cat:

And you would be wrong. You would be attempting to apply a rule that does not exist.

MTD, Sr.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Big Cat:

And you would be wrong. You would be attempting to apply a rule that does not exist.

MTD, Sr.

I dont think i'm wrong. IF a player tries to take up a ton of room by spreading his legs out and another player wants part of the space i will make him take normal stance. we have example in screen rule about what proper stance looks like. also, verticality, rebounding defintions. i think my interpretation is reasonable.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I dont think i'm wrong. IF a player tries to take up a ton of room by spreading his legs out and another player wants part of the space i will make him take normal stance. we have example in screen rule about what proper stance looks like. also, verticality, rebounding defintions. i think my interpretation is reasonable.

Big Cat:

You are trying to apply the Screening Rule to a non-screening situation. Stop trying to apply a rule that does NOT exist.

MTD, Sr.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Big Cat:

You are trying to apply the Screening Rule to a non-screening situation. Stop trying to apply a rule that does NOT exist.

MTD, Sr.

I'm reading the rules as a whole. Screening, verticality, rebounding....when you read them as a whole you get a picture of what a legal stance is or isnt. Again, if a player spreads his legs way wide just to take up more space and another player wants part of it then i will make the player adjust.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'm reading the rules as a whole. Screening, verticality, rebounding....when you read them as a whole you get a picture of what a legal stance is or isnt. Again, if a player spreads his legs way wide just to take up more space and another player wants part of it then i will make the player adjust.

Big Cat:

What part of the rules do you not understand? This is not a screening situation. You canNOT apply the screening rule to a non-screening situation. I know I am a bald old geezer but you need to listen when this bald old geezer speaks.

MTD, Sr.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Big Cat:

You are trying to apply the Screening Rule to a non-screening situation. Stop trying to apply a rule that does NOT exist.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, let me ask you this. Suppose two team B players are in adjacent positions around the circle. we know if team A desires in between they are entitled to it. How much room would you give A to get between the B players. 6 inches...6 feet? i bet youd tell the B players to separate enough so that the A player could get in with a normal stance, shoulder width etc...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Mark, let me ask you this. Suppose two team B players are in adjacent positions around the circle. we know if team A desires in between they are entitled to it. How much room would you give A to get between the B players. 6 inches...6 feet? i bet youd tell the B players to separate enough so that the A player could get in with a normal stance, shoulder width etc...

Big Cat:

Yes. But what is your point with regard to the original situation that we are discussing?

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Suppose two team B players are in adjacent positions around the circle. We know if team A desires in between they are entitled to it. How much room would you give A to get between the B players. 6 inches...6 feet? I bet you'd tell the B players to separate enough so that the A player could get in with a normal stance, shoulder width etc...

Agree, but what is the rule basis for this interpretation, if it really doesn't involve screening?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It does, but what does that have to do with how a player stands for the jump ball?

Because screening is defined as action by a player who, without causing contact, delays, or prevents an opponent from reaching a desired position, like a desired position on the jump ball circle.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Because screening is defined as action by a player who, without causing contact, delays, or prevents an opponent from reaching a desired position, like a desired position on the jump ball circle.

So, you're calling a foul?