In-bound pass that goes into the basket

[BigT]

Time is running out in the 4th quarter and Team B has just tied up the score at 99 a piece. A4 throws a hail mary and A5 tries to catch it on his own free throw line and it deflects straight up and comes down in Teams A basket. Does it count? Any rule reference would be appreciated.

When A5 tries to catch it and simply touches the ball there is 5 seconds left and when it goes through there is still 2 seconds left. Is this a legal goal/attempt?

I will look up 4-42-5. SC Official.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by BigT

Time is running out in the 4th quarter and Team B has just tied up the score at 99 a piece. A4 throws a hail mary and A5 tries to catch it on his own free throw line and it deflects straight up and comes down in Teams A basket. Does it count? Any rule reference would be appreciated.

The title of this thread is erroneous. When does the throw-in end? See 4-42-5.

And more information is needed to answer your question. When did time expire? It sounds like A5's deflection was not a try or tap for goal, meaning that it would not count if time expired before it passed through the net.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BigT

Time is running out in the 4th quarter and Team B has just tied up the score at 99 a piece. A4 throws a hail mary and A5 tries to catch it on his own free throw line and it deflects straight up and comes down in Teams A basket. Does it count? Any rule reference would be appreciated.

When A5 tries to catch it and simply touches the ball there is 5 seconds left and when it goes through there is still 2 seconds left. Is this a legal goal/attempt?

I will look up 4-42-5. SC Official.

Score two points for Team A because a Live Ball went through its Basket before Time expired.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigT

Time is running out in the 4th quarter and Team B has just tied up the score at 99 a piece. A4 throws a hail mary and A5 tries to catch it on his own free throw line and it deflects straight up and comes down in Teams A basket. Does it count? Any rule reference would be appreciated.

When A5 tries to catch it and simply touches the ball there is 5 seconds left and when it goes through there is still 2 seconds left. Is this a legal goal/attempt?

I will look up 4-42-5. SC Official.

Yes.

No.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes.

No.

Bob:

Thanks for giving a more accurate answer and concise answer.

MTD, Sr.

[BigT]

Basically as long as an inbound pass is know by the officials to have been touched it then can enter the basket and count. As long as it doesnt involve something like basket interference.

I want to thank those who posted.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by BigT

Basically as long as an inbound pass is know by the officials to have been touched it then can enter the basket and count. As long as it doesnt involve something like basket interference.

I want to thank those who posted.

Yes. Once the throw-in pass is touched inbounds, the throw-in is over.

Also, make sure you understand the difference between a try/tap and any live ball entering the basket. It matters with respect to the expiration of time.

[Raymond]

And please use "throw-in" instead of "inbounds pass".

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BigT

Basically as long as an inbound pass is know by the officials to have been LEGALLY touched it then can enter the basket and count. As long as it doesnt involve something like basket interference.

Big T, generally yes, but note the correction above.

[Rob1968]

Case Book 5.2.1 SITUATION D (2013-14) has the wording mentioned by the most recent posts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Case Book 5.2.1 SITUATION D (2013-14) has the wording mentioned by the most recent posts.

5.2.1 SITUATION D: Following the free throws for a technical foul, A1 makes a
throw-in from out of bounds at the division line opposite the table. The throw-in
pass is deflected at A’s free-throw line by: (a) A2; or (b) B1 and it then goes directly
through A’s basket. RULING: Score two points for Team A in both (a) and (b).
The throw-in ended when the ball was touched by an inbounds player and the live
ball subsequently passed through the basket. The fact it was not a tap or a try for
goal does not affect the scoring of two points. (4-41-4)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigT

When A5 tries to catch it and simply touches the ball there is 5 seconds left and when it goes through there is still 2 seconds left. Is this a legal goal/attempt?

If the touch was not a try or tap, then the basket would not count if time expired before the ball goes into the basket. Since the ball went into the basket before time expired, it does not matter how the ball got into the basket as long as an action was not illegal that caused it like a BI.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If the touch was not a try or tap, then the basket would not count if time expired before the ball goes into the basket. Since the ball went into the basket before time expired, it does not matter how the ball got into the basket as long as an action was not illegal that caused it like a BI.

Also, since it was not a try, a goaltending violation could not have been called.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

5.2.1 SITUATION D: Following the free throws for a technical foul, A1 makes a
throw-in from out of bounds at the division line opposite the table. The throw-in
pass is deflected at A’s free-throw line by: (a) A2; or (b) B1 and it then goes directly
through A’s basket. RULING: Score two points for Team A in both (a) and (b).
The throw-in ended when the ball was touched by an inbounds player and the live
ball subsequently passed through the basket. The fact it was not a tap or a try for
goal does not affect the scoring of two points. (4-41-4)

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Also, since it was not a try, a goaltending violation could not have been called.

Ok, Smarty, if an official did mistakenly whistle for a goaltending violation under the circumstances set forth in the Case Book play, please inform us of how the game would be resumed and why.

[crosscountry55]

Good question. Inadvertent whistle, but is there team control? I vote yes because of the rule change a few years ago, so give the ball to Team A at the OOB spot closest to where the ball was when the IW occurred.

This is not the same debate as the one we frequently have in regards to the backcourt rule, where TC *inbounds* is required.

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