Trick Play Penalties?

[JJ]

Is there any penalty for pulling the hidden ball trick (other than a balk if the pitcher screws it up) in FED?
How about the "Miami" play - pitcher fakes a pickoff throw, fielders all scramble after the imaginary ball, and then when the runner takes off he's tagged out?
I'm fishing for unsportsmanlike conduct here - is there anything to it?

JJ

[RPatrino]

Why do you feel that legal trickery is unsportsmanlike?

The hidden ball trick, is very difficult to pull off legally, but it can be done. It is up to the offensive team to be aware of where the ball is at all times.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by JJ

Is there any penalty for pulling the hidden ball trick (other than a balk if the pitcher screws it up) in FED?
How about the "Miami" play - pitcher fakes a pickoff throw, fielders all scramble after the imaginary ball, and then when the runner takes off he's tagged out?
I'm fishing for unsportsmanlike conduct here - is there anything to it?

JJ

Fishing is right.

All play is legal unless something proves otherwise.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JJ

Is there any penalty for pulling the hidden ball trick (other than a balk if the pitcher screws it up) in FED?
How about the "Miami" play - pitcher fakes a pickoff throw, fielders all scramble after the imaginary ball, and then when the runner takes off he's tagged out?
I'm fishing for unsportsmanlike conduct here - is there anything to it?

JJ

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[JJ]

Thanks, all. I'm not in the FED loop anymore so I couldn't give a solid answer when the question was asked.

JJ

[DG]

Don't need to be in FED loop, nothing here in any rule set.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by DG

Don't need to be in FED loop, nothing here in any rule set.

I know what the NCAA and OBR rules are, but haven't done FED for a couple of years, which is why I specifically asked about FED. Thanks.

JJ

[NavyChiefBlue]

Originally Posted by JJ

I know what the NCAA and OBR rules are, but haven't done FED for a couple of years, which is why I specifically asked about FED. Thanks.

JJ

And what are the NCAA and OBR penalties? Are they different from FED?

[rbmartin]

I wouldn't recommend fishing for violations just because something looks bad or unorthodox.

Off the top of my head the one instance of an illegal act while executing a "trick play" I can think of is: "The pitcher, without having the ball, stands on or astride the pitcher’s plate (8.05 I ) " is a balk.

Also, as an umpire, after a dead ball the pitcher has to posess the ball on the rubber before you (the UIC) can make the ball live again. Always watch for the ball. That would sometimes preclude a "trick play".

Other than those 2 things, play on.