Trick Play Penalties?
Is there any penalty for pulling the hidden ball trick (other than a balk if the pitcher screws it up) in FED?
How about the "Miami" play - pitcher fakes a pickoff throw, fielders all scramble after the imaginary ball, and then when the runner takes off he's tagged out? I'm fishing for unsportsmanlike conduct here - is there anything to it? JJ |
Why do you feel that legal trickery is unsportsmanlike?
The hidden ball trick, is very difficult to pull off legally, but it can be done. It is up to the offensive team to be aware of where the ball is at all times. |
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All play is legal unless something proves otherwise. |
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Thanks, all. I'm not in the FED loop anymore so I couldn't give a solid answer when the question was asked.
JJ |
Don't need to be in FED loop, nothing here in any rule set.
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I wouldn't recommend fishing for violations just because something looks bad or unorthodox.
Off the top of my head the one instance of an illegal act while executing a "trick play" I can think of is: "The pitcher, without having the ball, stands on or astride the pitcher’s plate (8.05 I ) " is a balk. Also, as an umpire, after a dead ball the pitcher has to posess the ball on the rubber before you (the UIC) can make the ball live again. Always watch for the ball. That would sometimes preclude a "trick play". Other than those 2 things, play on. |
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Bu the unwritten rules? Maybe. ;) |
And what are the NCAA and OBR penalties? Are they different from FED?
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Now that I think of it, perhaps it was a peeled potato that was thrown out of the dugout......:p |
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I saw this once: (high school game)
A 1st and 3rd situation. R1 stealing. The catcher receives the pitch, comes up throwing and actually throws the white-colored sponge that he kept in his catcher's mitt. The runner on 3rd, thinking that the ball was being thrown, broke for the plate. But, obviously, the catcher still had the ball. He was caught in a rundown. I was working the bases when this happened. My partner (the PU) simply killed the play and made all the runners go back. He admonished the catcher - and play continued. I don't think that was technically the correct ruling, but everybody seemed happy with it. |
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