CWS game 2 starting pitcher windup?

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You could use that rationalization in FED, but this stance would be illegal in FED, as it's not a set by their rules.

What FED set rule does this violate?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by umpjim

What FED set rule does this violate?

Free foot must be on or behind a line through the front of the rubber (to be in the wind up).

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Free foot must be on or behind a line through the front of the rubber (to be in the wind up).

But I'm calling it a set as per MDlonghorn and Rich Ives.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by umpjim

But I'm calling it a set as per MDlonghorn and Rich Ives.

Now you're confusing FED and NCAA rules.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Now you're confusing FED and NCAA rules.

FED windup requires free foot to be on Pitchers Plate front line extension. OP pitcher does not comply with this.

NCAA windup requires entire free foot to not be in front of pivot foot. OP pitcher does not comply with this. We won't worry about squared shoulders.

Rationalization is that this pitcher is in the set. What FED set rule is different than NCAA?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by umpjim

FED windup requires free foot to be on Pitchers Plate front line extension. OP pitcher does not comply with this.

NCAA windup requires entire free foot to not be in front of pivot foot. OP pitcher does not comply with this. We won't worry about squared shoulders.

Rationalization is that this pitcher is in the set. What FED set rule is different than NCAA?

If the pitcher isn't in the wind-up, he's in the set. So if the "windup" rule is different then the "set" rule is also different. Maybe I'm just mis-understanding.

By rule, the pitcher shown in the video has his free foot in the set position in FED. However, his pivot foot is in the wind-up position. Thus, it's the "hybrid" in FED that was the POE this year -- and, apparently, enforced differently in different locales. Search on previous threads -- I'm pretty sure there were some pictures of the various feet positions and a discussion of them.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the pitcher isn't in the wind-up, he's in the set. So if the "windup" rule is different then the "set" rule is also different. Maybe I'm just mis-understanding.

By rule, the pitcher shown in the video has his free foot in the set position in FED. However, his pivot foot is in the wind-up position. Thus, it's the "hybrid" in FED that was the POE this year -- and, apparently, enforced differently in different locales. Search on previous threads -- I'm pretty sure there were some pictures of the various feet positions and a discussion of them.

Why is his pivot foot in the "windup position"? It's almost parallel and in full contact with the plate. Thus according to MDlonghorn and Rich Ives he is in the set and does not violate NCAA windup restrictions. Without runners on he does what looks like a windup step back but both allow as part of his motion to pitch out of the set.

While my locale ignored the FED rule pre POE it was enforced strictly post POE. Even to the extent that we got an interp that a heel tangent to the plate or edge extension was not on or in contact with the plate. They had to edge the heel a little bit onto the white.