Ohio team schedules 2 quick games to get ejected player back for state

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Altor

This guy is something else.

The sad thing is that all three of the schools involved are Catholic schools. I say this out of respect for my Catholic brothers and sisters, not with an anti-Catholic bias. I simply expect better of them. They simply were not teaching these young men how to be morally-upstanding citizens in all this.

Our football crew ejected a player 9 years ago for a dead-ball spear where both players ended up injured.

The coach of the ejected player was more concerned with yelling at me and used some of these same lines.

"He works so hard in the weight room."

"He's a senior - how can you do that to him?"

The coach ended up drawing an USC flag and our crew hasn't worked that conference since. We've been offered dates there, but our schedule just doesn't have any openings right now.

[robbie]

If the ump really said this:

"I'm not some schlepp pushing a broom all day and then coming to a game not knowing what I'm doing. I do have credentials to be out there."

Then he truly is a schlepp - (to be kind.)

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by robbie

If the ump really said this:

"I'm not some schlepp pushing a broom all day and then coming to a game not knowing what I'm doing. I do have credentials to be out there."

Then he truly is a schlepp - (to be kind.)

I think that's easy to say when we're on the outside looking in. In the heat of the moment he defended himself to the press. Most men would attempt to stand up for themselves. He was accused (in the press) of going on a power trip, which is incredibly demeaning. The coach, the player, the team, the school, the conference, and the OHSAA all owe this official an apology and should be ashamed of themselves.


Tim.

[David B]

Horrible example - the state should be ashamed of themselves ... and we wonder why these kids act like they do ...

Thanks
David

[robbie]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I think that's easy to say when we're on the outside looking in. In the heat of the moment he defended himself to the press. Most men would attempt to stand up for themselves. He was accused (in the press) of going on a power trip, which is incredibly demeaning. The coach, the player, the team, the school, the conference, and the OHSAA all owe this official an apology and should be ashamed of themselves.


Tim.

So in the interest of defending himself he can make an ignorant and degrading comment amout janitors or whatever hard working individual he was insulting????????????

[jdmara]

First of all I agree with all the comments above. I'm really speechless in regards to the comments by the umpire and coach. I would hope that the umpire truly didn't say those things and the newspaper took liberties they shouldn't have (has happened to myself and others unfortunately in this area).

In your individual states, are teams allowed to play contests after the tournaments have started? It's my understanding (and I could be wrong) that in Iowa the last eligible playing date is before the tournament starts so this would not be an issue (unless they play two quick dates before the tourney starts assuming the last game of the season a player would get ejected).

-Josh

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by robbie

So in the interest of defending himself he can make an ignorant and degrading comment amout janitors or whatever hard working individual he was insulting????????????

I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


Tim.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


Tim.

I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.

I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


Tim.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


Tim.

As one of those "schlepps pushing a broom", yeah he was being insulting.

I'm smart enough to get the work that allows me to umpire.

Rita

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by Rita C

As one of those "schlepps pushing a broom", yeah he was being insulting.

I'm smart enough to get the work that allows me to umpire.

Rita

Rita, Rita, Rita. He didn't say people who push a broom are schlepps. He said he isn't some schlepp that happens to push a broom. He could have said he wasn't some schlepp working in a lab, but he said pushing a broom, which if we are all being honest here, doesn't take much brain power. Toughen up that skin a little.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Rita C

As one of those "schlepps pushing a broom", yeah he was being insulting.

I'm smart enough to get the work that allows me to umpire.

Rita

Rita....check your PMs.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


Tim.

Pfft!!!!

[Publius]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

The coach, the player, the team, the school, the conference, and the OHSAA all owe this official an apology and should be ashamed of themselves.

We're independent contractors and have no say in the administration of any school, team, conference or association. If you don't like it, don't work there. I certainly have my share of places I don't work because I don't like how they treat me, but I never once thought anybody owed me an apology. There are multiple coaches who bad-mouthed me publicly over the years, and when I was offered games to work where they coach, I just turned 'em down.

ozzy said it well:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

"Personally, I couldn't care less. The player got ejected and as far as I am concerned, that is all we as umpires have control over. Who (umpires) really gives a crap if he plays the next game or not?"

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Publius

We're independent contractors and have no say in the administration of any school, team, conference or association. If you don't like it, don't work there. I certainly have my share of places I don't work because I don't like how they treat me, but I never once thought anybody owed me an apology. There are multiple coaches who bad-mouthed me publicly over the years, and when I was offered games to work where they coach, I just turned 'em down.

ozzy said it well:

We're going to have to agree to disagree here. This entite matter is a symptom of a much larger generational problem. There is virtually NO accountibility anymore for young men and women when they cross the line. This kid steps out of bounds and swears at an adult who's been placed in an authoritative position, and it appears the entire system makes allowances for it. In the days I played baseball none of the kids I played baseball with would have gotten away with something like this. Our coaches and school administrators would have supprted the official, and an a$$kicking woyld have been the order of the day by our fathers.

Tim.