Ohio team schedules 2 quick games to get ejected player back for state

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


Tim.

I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Adam

I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.

I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


Tim.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


Tim.

And the veteran cowboys would have told the rookies to shut up and appreciate the extra publicity.

[MD Longhorn]

My issue with the umpire (very small compared to my issue with the coach / team / org) is that he spoke to the press at all. I could care less that he compared his job to one he thought was easy but probably had no context to make that comparison... he was not saying that to insult janitors. The fact that he was talking at all is my problem here.

[ozzy6900]

Okay, here's reality.

• The umpire did his job
• The State allowed the school to bend the rules
• The coach gets his way

We can bitch all we want and pi$$ and moan until the cows come home. The end result is the politics of HS baseball wins. Personally, I couldn't care less. The player got ejected and as far as I am concerned, that is all we as umpires have control over. Who (umpires) really gives a crap if he plays the next game or not? We do our jobs, leave the field, write our reports and the rest is left to the gods above us. So what if the kid didn't serve the sentence that he should have? Does that affect the crew doing the game that the kid should be sitting? No! Keep your eye on the little bastard and dump him on the first sound. Heh, heh, heh!

[RPatrino]

When I was younger, I used to get all stressed about the 'politics' of what we do. As I have grown older (didn't say matured) I have learned to not let what happens outside of the lines get to me. My job is to work the game, not the back room.

[UES]

Oz and Patrino hit the nail on the head.

Our job is between the lines (execute and report) and while I can understand the "hypocracy", we should not concern ourselves with the punishment handed out afterwards - that's really none of our business.

The ONLY time I concern myself with the "punishment" is if the EJ was for contact with an official... and that's because I want to ensure the league is backing me up

[Adam]

Originally Posted by UES

Oz and Patrino hit the nail on the head.

Our job is between the lines (execute and report) and while I can understand the "hypocracy", we should not concern ourselves with the punishment handed out afterwards - that's really none of our business.

The ONLY time I concern myself with the "punishment" is if the EJ was for contact with an official... and that's because I want to ensure the league is backing me up

On the other hand, if the organization claims they want a crack down on unsporting behavior and then allows the work-around this coach managed to accomplish, they've basically told the umpires they really didn't mean it.

Swearing at the umpire is as unsporting as it gets in a high school game.

[thumpferee]

Sometime we forget that it is all about the kids. Sometime kids screw up, well, most of the time, as I'm sure we all did, and you learn from your mistakes!

We have to make sure the punishment fits the crime. I'm glad the kid got a chance to experience all he could have during his high school season. That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

Sometime we forget that it is all about the kids. Sometime kids screw up, well, most of the time, as I'm sure we all did, and you learn from your mistakes!

We have to make sure the punishment fits the crime. I'm glad the kid got a chance to experience all he could have during his high school season. That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!

It's all about the kids, sure. And this kid should've served his suspension and leaned a life lesson. Instead he won't understand that what he did was wrong.

I'm just glad in my state that wouldn't have happened.

[JRutledge]

My state has suspended coaches for doing what this team and school did in other sports. In baseball not sure if that would work very well considering games are moved all the time. But this kid should have served a punishment and the state should be ashamed of themselves for not taking action.

And yes I would care if a kid got ejected did not serve the suspension properly. It would not have kept me up at night, but I would not have been happy. And if I had heard about that, that kid would be on a short leash the next game.

Peace

[CT1]

Thankfully, our state doesn't allow such bullcrap. In order for a player to be suspended, it must be his second EJ of the season. And, once playoffs begin, no more regular season games may be played.

However, I can understand where "cold-weather" states may need to have different scheduling policies.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

My state has suspended coaches for doing what this team and school did in other sports. In baseball not sure if that would work very well considering games are moved all the time.

I'm pretty sure that in IL, suspensions have to be served in the next game that is already scheduled at the time of the suspension. So, a team could go ahead and add a game or two, but the player couldn't play in those and then couldn't play in the previously scheduled game.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!

If only restricting worked.

In the scheme of life, the ejection should teach more of a life lesson than a warm and fuzzy warning.

[RPatrino]

In some (if not most) cases a player ejection is actually only a seat on the bench. If the player is a minor, then he/she can't leave the premises unless a parent or guardian is there to take him/her home. The post game discipline is what reinforces the ejection.