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Old Thu Jun 13, 2013, 09:44pm
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I think that's easy to say when we're on the outside looking in. In the heat of the moment he defended himself to the press. Most men would attempt to stand up for themselves. He was accused (in the press) of going on a power trip, which is incredibly demeaning. The coach, the player, the team, the school, the conference, and the OHSAA all owe this official an apology and should be ashamed of themselves.


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So in the interest of defending himself he can make an ignorant and degrading comment amout janitors or whatever hard working individual he was insulting????????????
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Old Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:31am
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First of all I agree with all the comments above. I'm really speechless in regards to the comments by the umpire and coach. I would hope that the umpire truly didn't say those things and the newspaper took liberties they shouldn't have (has happened to myself and others unfortunately in this area).

In your individual states, are teams allowed to play contests after the tournaments have started? It's my understanding (and I could be wrong) that in Iowa the last eligible playing date is before the tournament starts so this would not be an issue (unless they play two quick dates before the tourney starts assuming the last game of the season a player would get ejected).

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So in the interest of defending himself he can make an ignorant and degrading comment amout janitors or whatever hard working individual he was insulting????????????


I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


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Old Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:32am
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I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


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I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.
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I agree. While poorly worded, it seems his comments were more in line with clarifying that this isn't his first rodeo. It is, however, a good example of why we shouldn't comment to the media in the heat of accusations.

I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


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I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


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And the veteran cowboys would have told the rookies to shut up and appreciate the extra publicity.
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Old Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:12am
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My issue with the umpire (very small compared to my issue with the coach / team / org) is that he spoke to the press at all. I could care less that he compared his job to one he thought was easy but probably had no context to make that comparison... he was not saying that to insult janitors. The fact that he was talking at all is my problem here.
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Old Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:18am
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Okay, here's reality.
  • The umpire did his job
  • The State allowed the school to bend the rules
  • The coach gets his way
We can bitch all we want and pi$$ and moan until the cows come home. The end result is the politics of HS baseball wins. Personally, I couldn't care less. The player got ejected and as far as I am concerned, that is all we as umpires have control over. Who (umpires) really gives a crap if he plays the next game or not? We do our jobs, leave the field, write our reports and the rest is left to the gods above us. So what if the kid didn't serve the sentence that he should have? Does that affect the crew doing the game that the kid should be sitting? No! Keep your eye on the little bastard and dump him on the first sound. Heh, heh, heh!
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When I was younger, I used to get all stressed about the 'politics' of what we do. As I have grown older (didn't say matured) I have learned to not let what happens outside of the lines get to me. My job is to work the game, not the back room.
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Sometime we forget that it is all about the kids. Sometime kids screw up, well, most of the time, as I'm sure we all did, and you learn from your mistakes!

We have to make sure the punishment fits the crime. I'm glad the kid got a chance to experience all he could have during his high school season. That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!
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Sometime we forget that it is all about the kids. Sometime kids screw up, well, most of the time, as I'm sure we all did, and you learn from your mistakes!

We have to make sure the punishment fits the crime. I'm glad the kid got a chance to experience all he could have during his high school season. That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!
It's all about the kids, sure. And this kid should've served his suspension and leaned a life lesson. Instead he won't understand that what he did was wrong.

I'm just glad in my state that wouldn't have happened.
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That's why I am in favor of restricting players versus ejecting them.

But get rid of the rats!

If only restricting worked.

In the scheme of life, the ejection should teach more of a life lesson than a warm and fuzzy warning.
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I believe that had he mentioned this wasn't his first rodeo there would have been a large outcry from rookie cowboys proclaiming how offensive his comments were.......


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What he should have said was, "This isn't my first time pushing a broom after the rodeo has left town."
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Ladies and gentlemen. I can assure you that the OhioHSAA is not happy about the situation, BUT, as in the rules that I posted earlier in this thread, it was perfectly legal. I am sure that rules will be examined closely for next year.

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Old Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:52pm
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I don't believe for a second that his comments were degrading to any janitors. This new wave PC bull$it sickens me.


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As one of those "schlepps pushing a broom", yeah he was being insulting.

I'm smart enough to get the work that allows me to umpire.

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