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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:48pm
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Substitution Question

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F8 is injured and must leave the game. Team A has one player on the bench, but he has already been used as a pinch hitter and removed from the game.

Does Team A continue the game with 8 players? Is there ever a situation where a substitute can be "re-used" for lack of a better word?
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:00pm
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Continue with 8.

If F8 was on base, then someone (the previous batter not on base?) gets to run until put out or scores.
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:27pm
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Is there ever a situation where a substitute can be "re-used" for lack of a better word?
No. "A substitute who is withdrawn may not reenter." 3-1-3
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Old Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:52pm
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You need to re-think that answer.
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:41am
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See case play 4.1.1B
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Old Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:06am
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You need to re-think that answer.
Who does? Both my comment and Maven's seem to be correct.

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See case play 4.1.1B
It's 4.4.1B, thanks. I didn't have my books handy when I sent the previous answer.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2013, 06:08pm
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FED Substitution

Hello,

The fact that a substitute has been used and then removed from the game; makes him ineligible for the remainder of the game. A starter will have re-entry capabilities. The fact that team A was down to eight eligible players, does not open the gate for allowing an ineligible player.

I hope this helps...you can also see the substitution rule in your NFHS rule-book.

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Old Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:10pm
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Hello,

The fact that a substitute has been used and then removed from the game; makes him ineligible for the remainder of the game. A starter will have re-entry capabilities. The fact that team A was down to eight eligible players, does not open the gate for allowing an ineligible player.

I hope this helps...you can also see the substitution rule in your NFHS rule-book.

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Read post #5 please.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:25pm
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Read post #5 please.
The player referred to in 4.4.1.B is a courtesy runner, not a substitute.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:59am
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Read post #5 please.
Player on the bench was a pinch runner who was removed from the game. He had no re-entry.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:59am
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You need to re-think that answer.
No, he doesn't... you do! A substitute once removed cannot re-enter.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:49pm
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Team A must forfeit. There is no provision for courtesy runners.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:56pm
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Team A must forfeit. There is no provision for courtesy runners.
Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:49pm
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Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.
Speed-up rules are by state adoption. My state permits them by mutual agreement of the coaches prior to the game and only for non-conference games.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:11am
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Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.
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Speed-up rules are by state adoption. My state permits them by mutual agreement of the coaches prior to the game and only for non-conference games.
Correct, but not relevant to the OP, which deals with a "courtesy runner" for an injured runner, when no subs are available. This particular "courtesy runner" (last batter not on base) is allowed by rule, and does not require a state adoption.
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