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davelock11 Thu Feb 14, 2013 02:48pm

Substitution Question
 
Fed rules

F8 is injured and must leave the game. Team A has one player on the bench, but he has already been used as a pinch hitter and removed from the game.

Does Team A continue the game with 8 players? Is there ever a situation where a substitute can be "re-used" for lack of a better word?

bob jenkins Thu Feb 14, 2013 03:00pm

Continue with 8.

If F8 was on base, then someone (the previous batter not on base?) gets to run until put out or scores.

maven Thu Feb 14, 2013 04:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by davelock11 (Post 879500)
Is there ever a situation where a substitute can be "re-used" for lack of a better word?

No. "A substitute who is withdrawn may not reenter." 3-1-3

UMP45 Thu Feb 14, 2013 04:52pm

You need to re-think that answer.

BretMan Fri Feb 15, 2013 08:41am

See case play 4.1.1B

bob jenkins Fri Feb 15, 2013 09:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP45 (Post 879530)
You need to re-think that answer.

Who does? Both my comment and Maven's seem to be correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 879620)
See case play 4.1.1B

It's 4.4.1B, thanks. I didn't have my books handy when I sent the previous answer.

UtahGolf Tue Feb 19, 2013 06:08pm

FED Substitution
 
Hello,

The fact that a substitute has been used and then removed from the game; makes him ineligible for the remainder of the game. A starter will have re-entry capabilities. The fact that team A was down to eight eligible players, does not open the gate for allowing an ineligible player.

I hope this helps...you can also see the substitution rule in your NFHS rule-book.

Utah Golf

UMP45 Tue Feb 19, 2013 09:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UtahGolf (Post 880461)
Hello,

The fact that a substitute has been used and then removed from the game; makes him ineligible for the remainder of the game. A starter will have re-entry capabilities. The fact that team A was down to eight eligible players, does not open the gate for allowing an ineligible player.

I hope this helps...you can also see the substitution rule in your NFHS rule-book.

Utah Golf

Read post #5 please.

dash_riprock Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP45 (Post 880501)
Read post #5 please.

The player referred to in 4.4.1.B is a courtesy runner, not a substitute.

Steven Tyler Wed Feb 20, 2013 01:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP45 (Post 880501)
Read post #5 please.

Player on the bench was a pinch runner who was removed from the game. He had no re-entry.

ozzy6900 Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP45 (Post 879530)
You need to re-think that answer.

No, he doesn't... you do! A substitute once removed cannot re-enter.

bwburke94 Wed Feb 20, 2013 01:49pm

Team A must forfeit. There is no provision for courtesy runners.

shickenbottom Wed Feb 20, 2013 01:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwburke94 (Post 880684)
Team A must forfeit. There is no provision for courtesy runners.

Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.

maven Wed Feb 20, 2013 02:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by shickenbottom (Post 880686)
Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.

Speed-up rules are by state adoption. My state permits them by mutual agreement of the coaches prior to the game and only for non-conference games.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 21, 2013 08:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by shickenbottom (Post 880686)
Please check your Fed Rules, Curtesy runner is available for the pitchers' or catchers' position. It a speed up rule.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maven (Post 880717)
Speed-up rules are by state adoption. My state permits them by mutual agreement of the coaches prior to the game and only for non-conference games.

Correct, but not relevant to the OP, which deals with a "courtesy runner" for an injured runner, when no subs are available. This particular "courtesy runner" (last batter not on base) is allowed by rule, and does not require a state adoption.


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