Fair and Foul

[3ump]

Thanks for the help guys. So the foul call trumps the fair, I can live with that ( I guess) but the defensive coach sure as hell was not. My partner is a seasoned ump and when this happened I was stunned to say the least. Says he heard foul and followed thru with it but like I said I have a boooming voice no mistake bout it. Worse part is I was left to fix it, and the biggest *****er yep it was the offensive coach.

[johnnyg08]

Furthermore, there is no voice on a fair ball.

Are you a newer umpire? Was it possible that BU took it upon himself to "help you" even though you got it right?

If it were my game, Base umpire would be fixing this and explaining it to the coaches.

I would stand by to escort the ejected manager from the field.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Furthermore, there is no voice on a fair ball..........

The poster said that he signaled 3 times fair. He never said he verbally said FAIR.

[JJ]

This is another reason why a thorough pregame with an unknown partner is valuable. "If you're in the middle I have all the fair/fouls" should let him know he should keep his mouth shut. He may have heard someone from the other team yell "foul" and mimicked the call he thought came from the PU.
And yes, HE should be the one to "fix" it. HE'S the one who screwed up!

JJ

[MD Longhorn]

Yet another reason not to mimic your partner's calls.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by JJ

This is another reason why a thorough pregame with an unknown partner is valuable. "If you're in the middle I have all the fair/fouls" should let him know he should keep his mouth shut.

In all honesty, this is something I would never cover with my partner during pre-game. It should be common sense that an umpire inside the diamond has ZERO fair/foul responsibility!

The only fair/foul coverage we go over is when the BU is in A.

[3ump]

No Johnny I am not a newer ump, doing this close to 35 years....and the part about a booming voice was to clarify that if I would have called foul the whole park hears it. I pointed fair 3 times emphatically and was shocked to face infield and partner was calling foul back turned to me. And he is not a newbie either, perhaps a brain fart I don't know....and yes I was not very polite to him after the game in parking lot, I think he will remember this conversation for some time.....scathing to say the least.