Interesting initial call on steal of home

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

You would say the same thing if Enberg harped on a Right Fielder who tossed a ball into the stands on out number 2 and let the go ahead run score?

I think not.

As usual, your thinking is wrong.

In fact, I would say the same thing. Enberg just can't let go. He is classless on all accounts.

[jwwashburn]

My thinking is "usually wrong".

Wow, and Dick Enberg is classless.

Thank you, master, for teaching me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

There is no need to apologize.

I'll take that as a "no."

[MD Longhorn]

JW is right. It seems to be politically acceptable, or even entertaining, for announcers to go on and on about how bad a call is. You might hear a play by a fielder or a swing by a batter, or a pitch from a pitcher called bad or even awful by an announcer - but they will not go on and on and on about how awful it was or how that player should be ashamed or reprimanded, etc.

(It should be noted that it also seems politically acceptable or even entertaining for umpires on a message board to go on and on about mistakes announcers make ... but I digress)

I would not say Dick Enberg is classless. I WOULD say that on THIS call, he behaved without class. MOST of the time, Dick Enberg is the essence of class.

This was an awful call by the umpire. This was also an awful lack of class and professionalism by the announcer. Neither means the umpire is pathetic all the time or the announcer is classless all the time.

[Adam]

Had he stuck with the call, it seems to me then it could have been in the category of "worst call" or "most abominable" calls ever. Since he clearly didn't, seems to me it just ends up looking bad.
And Enberg using that word comes across as ignorant and inexperienced. Was that the most abominable throw from a pitcher to a catcher that he's ever seen?
It was needless dumping, and he'll get away with it because no one (outside of officials) ever thinks twice about dumping on officials. When a million dollar pitcher panics and launches what should be an easy 60 foot throw to the back stop, that should be the focus rather than a momentary, but corrected, lapse in focus from the umpire. The umpire's error had absolutely no effect on the game. That can't be said for the pitcher's throw.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

My thinking is "usually wrong".

Whenever you assume as you do with the phrase "I think not", yes, you are usually wrong.

Wow, and Dick Enberg is classless.

Very good. Acceptance is the first step.

Thank you, master, for teaching me.

You are welcome. Now go, and assume no more.

[SAump]

The call was not the worst call ever. There have been many calls worst than this. The call is in the bad category but it is not the worst.

Perhaps Mr. Enburg was telling the truth whe he stated it was one of the worst calls he had ever seen. Maybe, he is so busy that he doesn't have time for ESPN highlight reels, the Tim McCarver show, or those websites listing the worst calls ever made.

Yahoo search worst call in baseball, http://search.yahoo.com/tablet/s;_yl...p-qrw-corr-top

[JJ]

According to several fans at last night's game, every other call I made was "the worst call I've ever seen..."

JJ

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

JW is right. It seems to be politically acceptable, or even entertaining, for announcers to go on and on about how bad a call is. You might hear a play by a fielder or a swing by a batter, or a pitch from a pitcher called bad or even awful by an announcer - but they will not go on and on and on about how awful it was or how that player should be ashamed or reprimanded, etc.

(It should be noted that it also seems politically acceptable or even entertaining for umpires on a message board to go on and on about mistakes announcers make ... but I digress)

I would not say Dick Enberg is classless. I WOULD say that on THIS call, he behaved without class. MOST of the time, Dick Enberg is the essence of class.

This was an awful call by the umpire. This was also an awful lack of class and professionalism by the announcer. Neither means the umpire is pathetic all the time or the announcer is classless all the time.

He may be the essence of class most of the time, but not when he works Padres games. Then he is nothing but an unabashed homer just slightly better (in this way) than Harrelson.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by GROUPthink

He may be the essence of class most of the time, but not when he works Padres games. Then he is nothing but an unabashed homer just slightly better (in this way) than Harrelson.

Yep. Enberg is an absolute homer and has his head up his arse when calling Padres games. He runs his mouth no matter if he knows what he is talking about or not.

I would take announcers a little more seriously when they criticize legitimately blown calls if they knew the rules and knew when umpires got something right and acknowledged it. The problem is that 99.9 percent of them don't have the first clue about rules, mechanics, or how situations are handled, but love to convince all the lame-brained fans how great they are and how much they know. We know where the idiot fans get their "knowledge": From clowns like Enberg.

[jwwashburn]

Wow, that was classy.

[lawump]

I have MLB's extra inning package and have had it several years in a row. I grew up liking Dick Enberg from his work on NBC. But when he cut back his schedule and largely left network TV to work Padres' games I was shocked at what a classless, gutless coward he is toward the umpries (He says things on the air that I doubt very seriously he has the balls to say to an umpire's face). I used to like him so much as a child growing up, that the first time I heard him going off on an umpire rant I thought that maybe he was just having a bad night as I had not heard anything like that from him before on NBC. But...NOPE. He's truly an ***.

He routinely eggs on the players and managers (even though, obviously, they can't hear him) to "get their money's worth" when yelling at the umpires. At the end of arguments where the player/manager/coach has been ejected he regularly says "good for you, (insert ejected person's name)." The umpire is ALWAYS wrong in every argument. He regularly comments on how bad a game an umpire is having without even attempting to give any supporting evidence.

In fact, he is one of the very worst announcers around in respect to treatment of umpires. In fact, over the last five years, based on what I have seen on MLB Extra Innings, the Padres would get my vote as the team with the most umpire-bashing announcers in all of MLB as this behavior extends beyond Dick.

[onetime1]

That was a pretty bad call. I dont think it was Enberg's fault the ump did not see the ball. Abodmidable like the snowman is appropriate here.