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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:07am
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Beards & Umpires

How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
  2. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
  3. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
Obviously, beards have nothing to do with an umpire's knowledge or his calls. Although if the beard is similar to that of Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), I suppose it could get into the way of your strike or out signal!
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:14am
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How many politicians wear beards?

It creates the perception of not being trustworthy.

Our association has no policy against it.
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:39am
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Our association only requires that facial hair be neatly trimmed.
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:57am
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I have no problem working with an umpire w/ a beard, but when it is going to be 95 today, I hope it keeps him cool.
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It creates the perception of not being trustworthy.
Like that notorious Jesus fellow.
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Like that notorious Jesus fellow.
Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Horribly untrustworthy.
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:35am
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How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
  2. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
  3. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
1. Yes
2. "Neatly trimmed"
3. I don't have one but others do. It doesn't seem to have effected their schedule...they work top level assignments and get post season work.
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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:19pm
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How is your association about umpires sporting beards?
  1. Does your association allow them?
Association as no say over this.

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  1. Does your association request that they be a certain length?
Look at #1.

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  1. Does your association limit your assignments because you have a beard?
That is a different issue. I am sure the people that assign want you to look neat and that can be a factor. But there is no rule that I am aware of that says yes or no a to such a thing other than looking professional. And there are so few umpires available I doubt that this is a deal breaker unless there are two equal guys and the one that looks the most professional is also available.

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Obviously, beards have nothing to do with an umpire's knowledge or his calls. Although if the beard is similar to that of Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), I suppose it could get into the way of your strike or out signal!
You are right, but perception is reality to some.

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Old Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:34pm
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Not to mention Abraham Lincoln. Horribly untrustworthy.
U S Grant was a drunkard. Plenty of shenanigans in his term in office.
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U S Grant was a drunkard.
Yeah...A drunkard who kicked butt! By the way, it was terms not term. he was re-elected.

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Yeah...A drunkard who kicked butt! By the way, it was terms not term. he was re-elected.
Not to mention the General of the Army who took Lee's surrender in that little skirmish known as the Civil War.
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U S Grant was a drunkard.
He's in good company. The history books are full of great men who remained great while drunk.
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Like that notorious Jesus fellow.
No evidence whatsoever that he had a beard.
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But reasonable to assume that he did have one while fasting 40 days and nights in the wilderness.

I'm no historian, but it seems likely to me that in those days most men of modest means didn't shave routinely, particularly in outposts like Israel..
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But reasonable to assume that he did have one while fasting 40 days and nights in the wilderness.

I'm no historian, but it seems likely to me that in those days most men of modest means didn't shave routinely, particularly in outposts like Israel..
As I said, no evidence whatsoever ... not counting speculation, inference, educated guessing, etc. etc.
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