Canada/US difference

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I feel that anyone who refuses to even talk to an assistant coach is being a pompous fool. But that's just me, and I have gotten an awful lot of mileage by being civil to everyone on the field. They get what they give though.

Example (assistant coach):

Assistant Coach : Wow, that was a close play Bob.
Me: Sure was John, it was bang bang, from where I was I saw him out.

That's where this discussion will end.

Example ( Head Coach):

Head Coach: Bob, for cryin' out loud, he missed the tag by 2 feet.
Me: Ya, John, from where you were, it might have looked that way.
HC: Could you maybe ask Sammy for help? Damn that was brutal.
Me: No John, that's my call all the way, I saw him out, he got tagged on the hand reaching for 2nd.

That's where THIS discussion will end.

Maybe the word 'speak' is being confused with 'discuss' or 'dispute'.

Unfortunately, many times it's the other way around; with the Head Coach calmly commenting and the assistant doing the for cryin' out loud act. No, you don't eject an assistant for calmly, rationally, and in passing questioning the call. What you do eject for is a dumbass assistant that flies into a rage, doesn't buy time for his manager to arrive, and acts like he is the one running the show on the field. I totally agree with Rich Ives that it is bad game management to do the instant ejection the moment the assistant coach opens his mouth. I don't want to give the guy an inferiority complex, I just want him to run along and get his manager to do the arguing on the call. If he can manage to talk nicely until the head honcho arrives, then cool. Otherwise he is going to be ejected after he is warned. The OP, if I am reading it right, did not do a very good job of game management. IMO. The coach wasn't even allowed to open his mouth before getting run, and that sounds pretty fishy to me.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Unfortunately, many times it's the other way around; with the Head Coach calmly commenting and the assistant doing the for cryin' out loud act. No, you don't eject an assistant for calmly, rationally, and in passing questioning the call. What you do eject for is a dumbass assistant that flies into a rage, doesn't buy time for his manager to arrive, and acts like he is the one running the show on the field. I totally agree with Rich Ives that it is bad game management to do the instant ejection the moment the assistant coach opens his mouth. I don't want to give the guy an inferiority complex, I just want him to run along and get his manager to do the arguing on the call. If he can manage to talk nicely until the head honcho arrives, then cool. Otherwise he is going to be ejected after he is warned. The OP, if I am reading it right, did not do a very good job of game management. IMO. The coach wasn't even allowed to open his mouth before getting run, and that sounds pretty fishy to me.

It's why I said that I wonder if there's something missing. I haven't ejected a coach in 4 years and I guarantee that some assistants have talked to me.

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Unfortunately, many times it's the other way around; with the Head Coach calmly commenting and the assistant doing the for cryin' out loud act. No, you don't eject an assistant for calmly, rationally, and in passing questioning the call. What you do eject for is a dumbass assistant that flies into a rage, doesn't buy time for his manager to arrive, and acts like he is the one running the show on the field. I totally agree with Rich Ives that it is bad game management to do the instant ejection the moment the assistant coach opens his mouth. I don't want to give the guy an inferiority complex, I just want him to run along and get his manager to do the arguing on the call. If he can manage to talk nicely until the head honcho arrives, then cool. Otherwise he is going to be ejected after he is warned. The OP, if I am reading it right, did not do a very good job of game management. IMO. The coach wasn't even allowed to open his mouth before getting run, and that sounds pretty fishy to me.

I am inclined to eject ANYONE who flies into a rage, and doesn't calm down within about a nano-second and conduct themselves in a rational and sportsmanlike manner.