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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 04:26pm
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If the ball had passed F3 and F2 was able to make a play, INT.
That's one speedy catcher...
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 04:52pm
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I submitted the play to the NFHS and here's their "official" response -

"I ran your situation by a few committee members and got a consensus that since it was touched by the infielder, it is nothing, ball stays in play and what happens is what happens. Had the ball gotten by the first baseman, untouched, and then hit the base runner with the second baseman in position to make a play, we would then have interference."

Looks like the deflection was the key, so despite what the FED books say about another fielder having a chance to make a play, this situation is NOT considered interference by the runner.

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The books don't say anything of the sort with regards to a touched ball. The case play I cited above is nearly verbatim with the OP and states that it is not interference.
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The books don't say anything of the sort with regards to a touched ball. The case play I cited above is nearly verbatim with the OP and states that it is not interference.
He said it's not INT. You said it's not INT. I'm not clear what you're disagreeing with.
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 05:04pm
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He said it's not INT. You said it's not INT. I'm not clear what you're disagreeing with.
His last sentence, claiming that the books say something about another fielder having a play.

I also think it's somewhat a waste of time to contact NFHS when this play is in the case book.
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 05:06pm
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His last sentence, claiming that the books say something about another fielder having a play.

I also think it's somewhat a waste of time to contact NFHS when this play is in the case book.
The last sentence had to do with an UNTOUCHED ball though.
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 05:30pm
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That's one speedy catcher...
You know I meant F4!

You really don't want to start nit-picking posts, do you?
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 05:39pm
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The last sentence had to do with an UNTOUCHED ball though.
No, it didn't. Read the whole post. He is talking only about touched balls. (snickers)
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 05:56pm
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No, it didn't. Read the whole post. He is talking only about touched balls. (snickers)
If you're talking about JJ's post, it says untouched, and I didn't see an edit.

So we are talking about untouched balls here
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 06:09pm
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If you're talking about JJ's post, it says untouched, and I didn't see an edit.

So we are talking about untouched balls here
No, we are not, Ray Charles. Look at where it says "Had the ball...untouched" and "the deflection is the key."

His comments are only about deflected balls.
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No, we are not, Ray Charles. Look at where it says "Had the ball...untouched" and "the deflection is the key."

His comments are only about deflected balls.
My opologies!

Where is his post? Was it deleted? Who is Ray Charles
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Old Tue May 29, 2012, 07:19pm
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Who is Ray Charles
Ray Charles is God:

1. God is love.
2. Love is blind.
3. Ray Charles was blind.
Therefore, Ray Charles was God.

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Old Wed May 30, 2012, 08:41am
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No, it didn't. Read the whole post. He is talking only about touched balls. (snickers)
No... he said, "Had the ball gotten by the first baseman, untouched, and ..."
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No, we are not, Ray Charles. Look at where it says "Had the ball...untouched" and "the deflection is the key."

His comments are only about deflected balls.
You yourself just said untouched.

Who is Ray Charles?
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No... he said, "Had the ball gotten by the first baseman, untouched, and ..."
Exactly...HAD. The use of that word tells you that sentence is in contrast to what the rest of the post, which was balls that were touched.
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