Post season survey

[DG]

HR or ground rule bounce over when fence is low and green background on other side.

Had one this Spring where I called HR on one straightaway CF, that bounced high when it hit the ground. Defensive coach went nuts, kept hollering it bounced over, until finally he yelled out at his F8, "Johnny, did that ball bounce over?". Johnny hollers back "NO".

[JJ]

Pickoff at 1st from the B position and/or steal of 3rd from the C position. Equally as difficult for me to guess correctly.

JJ

[JJ]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

R2 only ground ball to F6's right in the hole and R2 decides to go.

No idea if its going to 3rd or 1st. If the play is at 1st, you're at best between the rubber and 2nd. If the play is at third, the ball is coming in behind the runner and you'll never see when he was tagged.

Just no solution to that one.

Call R2 out at 3rd UNLESS the ball is dropped or he is CLEARLY safe. A defensive coach will seldom squawk about this call because his runner did something REALLY stupid.

JJ

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

They're talking about the base ump, Steve.

Oh. That's very different. Never mind.

I guess reading really is fundamental.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

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In addition to what's been said,

To tell if it's an HR or book rule double when you have those dreaded snow fences to deal with.

Pete Booth[/QUOTE]

Oh, you mean those wonderful fences where you can see the ball bounce! Yeah, that one is hard. Especially if your caught straight away to it.

[justanotherblue]

Besides the fence, R2, with a low hard hit line drive into left or riight center, with F8 on his horse, lays out and makes a diving catch just off the ground, where you have to watch the catch through completion and catch the tag up at 2B.

[David B]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Good one -- add to it "and when F1 ALSO attempts a swipe tag on BR".

caused a little kerfluffle during a game this year -- and since PU went down to third, per the new mechanic, he wasn't (couldn't be) much help.

I agree with this one. Very hard to see F1 swipe tag - even with PU in position he's often blocked by the F2 or the runner.

Thanks
David

[Matt]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

With two outs and R2, I have seen umpires move from C to B in the belief that the final out will be at first base. Some associations encourage this though I'm not a fan. As has been discussed prior, umpires often do what their assignors, partner(s), league, team or paycheck provider demands.

Like you, I do not agree with this. However, I would say that being in B with two out would never result in a stolen base call at third, unless you have a really dumb OM.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

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In addition to what's been said,

To tell if it's an HR or book rule double when you have those dreaded snow fences to deal with.

Pete Booth[/QUOTE]

Any type of waist high fence for that matter.

[MikeStrybel]

I pointed out this thread to a buddy who is busy preparing for late winter clinics. He reminded me of a link I had sent him a year or so ago.

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[BigDiamondGuy]

The one where I was out of position. It happens, but hopefully, only in a blue moon

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by JJ

Call R2 out at 3rd UNLESS the ball is dropped or he is CLEARLY safe. A defensive coach will seldom squawk about this call because his runner did something REALLY stupid.

JJ

0 out, ground ball deep in the hole to F6 with a fast R2 with a big secondary. Its a good play to go to 3rd if he can get it.

Not my job to make calls just so somebody doesn't "squawk". Not my job to judge what is a stupid play and what isn't.

Call what ya got and don't worry about what should have or shouldn't have happened.

[jklingh]

In B or C,,,"Jeff, did he go?" ...after coin flip..."yes, he went"

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

0 out, ground ball deep in the hole to F6 with a fast R2 with a big secondary. Its a good play to go to 3rd if he can get it.

Not my job to make calls just so somebody doesn't "squawk". Not my job to judge what is a stupid play and what isn't.

Call what ya got and don't worry about what should have or shouldn't have happened.

You must work youth ball exclusively to make that bold of a statement. I sure JJ works way above that level. You know, with coaches and players that understand what is going on. I'm quite sure the coach will be reaming his player for being stupid, not the other way around.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by Matt

Like you, I do not agree with this. However, I would say that being in B with two out would never result in a stolen base call at third, unless you have a really dumb OM.

Actually, I see this play happen when a coach has R2 wheels or a really strong batter at the dish whom he wishes to protect. I assumed the same things as you, don't make the final out at third base. One of the early college games last season had me looking right up the a-- of this play and doing my best to sell a tough call. I don't assume much on the field any more.