WP on ball four, does run count?

[UmpTTS43]

Concerning original op, run would not score

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by Larry1953

I think it is a universal consensus that the OBR rule book could be written a lot better. Sometimes it isn't such a bad idea to go outside the box to make an improvement. I recall avidly reading the Bill James Baseball Abstracts when they first came out, what was it, about three decades ago? He was ridiculed and scoffed at. He "never played the game, what could he possibly know?" It turns out he knew a lot and he literally changed the face of the game.

You are not an umpire so we don't care what your opinions or theories about baseball rules are.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Larry1953

It is at least as interesting as spending 3 or 4 pages on what is the best shade of gray for an ump's pants, IMHO. But I guess you real umpires have different priorities. From the looks of the way the game is being ump'ed at the MLB level, it certainly shows. But they sure look cute in their blue polos and charcoal gray pants and twin ball sacks. Carry on....

Keep playing this song - you're the only one playing it. Looking at the most recent 25 threads, exactly one was about uniform, and one more about equipment. Drop it.

PS - no run. No thought required.

[BayStateRef]

I had nearly this play a couple of years ago and posted it here. Tie game. Bottom 7. R3 with 2 outs. 3-1 count. Ball 4 bounces in the dirt and goes to the backstop. R3 comes in to score.

B/R gets about 20 feet toward 1st base when his dugout (1st base side) empties to celebrate the win. He joins the celebration and never reaches 1st base (and also never makes it to the dugout).

There was much debate as to whether the B/R can be called out for abandonment (and at what point that happens.) Best advice I had from this forum: as soon as I see the dugout empty, yell, "Stop. The game is not over."

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by Larry1953

It is at least as interesting as spending 3 or 4 pages on what is the best shade of gray for an ump's pants, IMHO. But I guess you real umpires have different priorities. From the looks of the way the game is being ump'ed at the MLB level, it certainly shows. But they sure look cute in their blue polos and charcoal gray pants and twin ball sacks. Carry on....

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