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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 02:34pm
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Foul Ball/Dead Ball

Was working a FED game the other day, Batter swings and hits the ball, a few steps out of the batters box the ball bounces up and hits him. I mistakenly yell "Foul Ball" and before I have the chance to correct myself the Defensive Coach comes out to talk to me about the play. I explained to him that I kicked it, and it was a Dead Ball and the batter is out. I explain this to the Offensive Coach, who proceeds to tell me that you can't change a foul ball to a fair ball, and he tried to relate it to a ball down the line that I call foul then change my mind and call fair (which I know cannot be done). I explained that this is different because the ball is dead at contact, and there is no play to be made by the defense. Anyone have this happen to them? If so, how did you handle it? Also, how do you feel I handled the situation AFTER I made the incorrect call? Should I have let the foul ball stand and brought him back to bat? Or did I rule correctly?
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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 02:58pm
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"Coach, it just came out of my mouth wrong. I should have said "Time!, that's interference, the batter is out" "

Not much he could say, that wouldn't get him ejected, after that.
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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 03:05pm
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This is the era of "get it right." For judgment calls, I would not change it (just eat it and slow down next time); but the OP is a case of a misapplied rule and should be fixed. kylejt's remedy works for me.
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Old Thu Jun 02, 2011, 04:10pm
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"Coach, it just came out of my mouth wrong. I should have said "Time!, that's interference, the batter is out" "

Not much he could say, that wouldn't get him ejected, after that.
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This is the era of "get it right." For judgment calls, I would not change it (just eat it and slow down next time); but the OP is a case of a misapplied rule and should be fixed. kylejt's remedy works for me.
+1. Very correctable situation.

Don't let coaches tell you how to umpire. Even that coach knew he was grasping at straws. Once you admit your mistake, be firm in your changed call.
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Old Sat Jun 04, 2011, 08:06am
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The O-coach was incorrect. NFHS Umpire Manual states when a fair/foul call could be reversed, specifically whether or not a homerun is fair or foul. It is an example wherein the status of the ball is dead regardless of what final decision is rendered. The same could be used to strengthen your justification to reverse your decision from foul (dead ball) to interference (also a dead ball.)

Perhaps someday your play will be in the NFHS casebook.

Re: NFHS rule 2-16-1, 10-1-4, 10-2-3l, CB situations 2.16.1B, 2.16.1D, 5.1.1C, and Umpires Manual, I. 13. p. 6.
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