FED ejection, Proper or not? (2)

[Tim C]

6A -- Oregon's largest Schools -- quarterfinal playoff game.

V Pitcher throws darts . . . is in the strike zone all day. Never misses the zone by much.

H Pitcher is all over the place -- has HIT four batters.

No warnings have been issued.

Game is 1-0 Home in sixth inning.

H hits a Grand Slam . . .

NEXT pitch goes behind the head of the next H hitter.

PU immediately ejects V F1.

Any comments?

T

[mbyron]

The penalty for unsporting conduct is ejection. FED 3-3-1 PENALTY says that the umpire MAY warn before ejecting, but a warning is not required.

The umpire obviously judged that the pitch was intentional. I won't second guess that. His action was within the rules.

[bob jenkins]

Seems okay to me, from 2000 miles away.

Maybe PU heard something from F1 / F2 before the pitch.

[UmpJM]

HTBT.

Certainly could be a proper ejection. 6-2-3

JM

[ozzy6900]

If V-F1 has been on target all day, I think I would be doing the same thing. It's pretty tough to loose control like that, especially after a grand slam! We cannot allow this stuff in HS ball - MLB okay but not in amateur ball.

As far as warnings go, it's not like OBR where both benches get warned, in FED, only the offending F1's team gets a warning.

[tjones1]

Sounds good to me.

[zm1283]

I hate the FED rule about warnings for throwing at batters. In this situation, if you warn the V F1, aren't you effectively giving the H F1 a free shot at one of the V batters since you haven't warned him yet? I guess you could go ahead and eject the H F1 if you know it was intentional, but the H coach is going to go nuts since you warned the other team. This is why in the OP, an ejection seems fitting IMO.

[piaa_ump]

sounds reasonable to me.....(also from thousands of miles away....) Id have no reason to doubt the HPU judgment on this one based on what T wrote....

[rcaverly]

This works for me - purpose pitch above the waist, EJ; below the waist, probably a warning.

[JJ]

I wonder if that pitcher thought it was worth it, after the fact. Good job by the umpire.

JJ

[DG]

Warning. If V pitcher is throwing darts all day and throws one behind head of batter he did it intentional, if wanted to hit the batter he would have. Had a dart thrower hit batter in head, eject, behind the head, warn, especially under circumstances (no warn to other team).

What I don't understand is how H pitcher is all over the place, hit 4 batters and team only trails 1-0. And how did dart throwing shutout pitcher end up with bases loaded?

I probably 3000 miles away, but opinion woud not change if closer.

[TussAgee11]

Originally Posted by DG

Warning. If V pitcher is throwing darts all day and throws one behind head of batter he did it intentional, if wanted to hit the batter he would have. Had a dart thrower hit batter in head, eject, behind the head, warn, especially under circumstances (no warn to other team).

What I don't understand is how H pitcher is all over the place, hit 4 batters and team only trails 1-0. And how did dart throwing shutout pitcher end up with bases loaded?

I probably 3000 miles away, but opinion woud not change if closer.

No no no. The head is a small target that is easy to miss. And when you throw it behind him, it's just as dangerous as if it was directly at the helmet. Batter natural movement is to lean back, right into the path of the ball. No way is he getting away with this.

And its for his own good, cause guess what is happening if he gets up to the plate himself again. Try filling out that paperwork...

[David B]

Originally Posted by Tim C

6A -- Oregon's largest Schools -- quarterfinal playoff game.

V Pitcher throws darts . . . is in the strike zone all day. Never misses the zone by much.

H Pitcher is all over the place -- has HIT four batters.

No warnings have been issued.

Game is 1-0 Home in sixth inning.

H hits a Grand Slam . . .

NEXT pitch goes behind the head of the next H hitter.

PU immediately ejects V F1.

Any comments?

T

I can see why he ejected him. I am guessing he also heard something from F2 or F1 during the home run trot etc., that let him know something was coming.

When it did, ejection.

State quarterfinals, no one wants to put runners on base so I can see why there were no warnings for the home team F1 even though he was all over the place and hit four batters.

Now if its two teams with a history of bad blood etc., then that's a different story ...

Thanks
David

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim C

6A -- Oregon's largest Schools -- quarterfinal playoff game.

V Pitcher throws darts . . . is in the strike zone all day. Never misses the zone by much.

H Pitcher is all over the place -- has HIT four batters.

No warnings have been issued.

Game is 1-0 Home in sixth inning.

H hits a Grand Slam . . .

NEXT pitch goes behind the head of the next H hitter.

PU immediately ejects V F1.

Any comments?

T

Without stopping to look at any other responses, I am going to go with "Good call, Mr. Umpire." He had been locked in the zone the whole game up until that pitch. Not a coincidence that it happened right after the big fly.

[radwaste50]

Originally Posted by Tim C

6A -- Oregon's largest Schools -- quarterfinal playoff game.

V Pitcher throws darts . . . is in the strike zone all day. Never misses the zone by much.

H Pitcher is all over the place -- has HIT four batters.

No warnings have been issued.

Game is 1-0 Home in sixth inning.

H hits a Grand Slam . . .

NEXT pitch goes behind the head of the next H hitter.

PU immediately ejects V F1.

Any comments?

T

We had a similar situation in one of our championship games.
But before the pitch behind the batter pitcher, catcher, and head coach confer
Warnings are issued to both benches
V HC then tells Pu to ~"pull up your skirt"
V HC was then ejected