Throwing the Bat - LL

[jdmara]

"Involuntary release of the bat"

Can someone please explain what this term means? I think the batter is purposely releasing the bat. It didn't slip out of his hands, he intentionally released the bat. What he did was carelessly release the bat not involuntarily release.

Sorry, it's my grippe of the day

-Josh

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by jdmara

"Involuntary release of the bat"

Can someone please explain what this term means? I think the batter is purposely releasing the bat. It didn't slip out of his hands, he intentionally released the bat. What he did was carelessly release the bat not involuntarily release.

Sorry, it's my grippe of the day

-Josh

Right. Those bats the pros throw into the stands are thrown into the stands on purpose.

Same in LL. Couldn't possibly have slipped - had to have been on purpose.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Right. Those bats the pros throw into the stands are thrown into the stands on purpose.

Same in LL. Couldn't possibly have slipped - had to have been on purpose.

I didn't say that the bat could not have slipped in LL. What I'm pointing out is that a bat that is carelessly throw for four consecutive batters cannot possibly be an "involuntary" release. I give the kid the benefit of the doubt the first time it happens. Sometimes the bat gets away, we see it in the majors. But if it's an obvious habit of carelessly throwing the bat (ie thrown backwards multiple times by the same batter or a series of batters), don't call it involuntary. If it's raining or something, stop the game because it's no longer safe to play. By all means, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

-Josh

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by jdmara

. What I'm pointing out is that a bat that is carelessly throw for four consecutive batters cannot possibly be an "involuntary" release.
-Josh

Ah, the conspiracy theory. That's a new one.

Four batters in a row throw the bat on purpose, in your opinion. Yeah, I'd throw the manager out if I thought those guided missiles were intentional.

Look fellas, if you thing for one minute that a batter is trying to fling his bat to gain some sort of advantage, eject him right away. I'm just talking about little kids, who aren't doing this on purpose.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Ah, the conspiracy theory. That's a new one.

Four batters in a row throw the bat on purpose, in your opinion. Yeah, I'd throw the manager out if I thought those guided missiles were intentional.

Look fellas, if you thing for one minute that a batter is trying to fling his bat to gain some sort of advantage, eject him right away. I'm just talking about little kids, who aren't doing this on purpose.

I think the point he was trying to make is that the team was not exercising sufficient care. Even non-purposeful bat flings are incredibly rare, to the extent that I see fewer than 5 a season. To have 4 batter in a row lose their bat in a dangerous manner means they are not swinging so hard they can't hold on but are releasing the bat before they stop their swing.

Since releasing their bat is a purposeful action, it's not wrong to describe the bat flinging as purposeful even though it is not meant to endanger.

[kylejt]

How 'bout four hit batters in a row? Same difference, eh?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kylejt

How 'bout four hit batters in a row? Same difference, eh?

No.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by kylejt

How 'bout four hit batters in a row? Same difference, eh?

No, and I think you already knew that.