over rule or not

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Me:Screw proper. Get the call right. Properly if possible, or not.

That is great but just because you come in from 100 feet away does not mean you got it right either.

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

1. - Correct. 2. Agree. 3.No way. If you know your partner has the wrong call, you need to let him know. Waiting for a manger to catch the incorrect call is unethical and serves the game, the players ans the officials poorly.

What do you mean "know your partner has the wrong call?" Most judgment calls are just that, judgments. If they are in the right position how am I going to "know when they got something right or wrong all the time?" It is one thing if we are talking about rules, but a judgment call means that they made a judgment call. This situation we are talking about is a judgment call. Those can have different opinions. This has nothing to do with ethics, this has to do with the umpire have responsibilities and if you want to do their job, maybe you need to be on that field alone. Or they do not need to be there at all if they cannot do their job.

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Toes heal. Ultimately, it is all about how you perceive yourself as an official and how you wish to lead your life, isn't it?

Yes and in life many people have different roles or jobs to do. That is why in the medical profession you have different levels of nurses and different doctors doing different things to possibly help in a hospital.

If procedure does not matter, why as base umpires we do not give our opinion on a checked swing until we are asked? Or better yet why do you not see BUs give ball/strike calls? Do not say procedures do not matter when we use them all the time in our job as umpires.

Peace

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is great but just because you come in from 100 feet away does not mean you got it right either.
What do you mean "know your partner has the wrong call?"

Partner makes call. Partner is wrong. E.g. he didn't see the ball not caught because it landed out of his sight line. C'mon, Rut, surely you don't need this explained to you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Simply The Best

Partner makes call. Partner is wrong. E.g. he didn't see the ball not caught because it landed out of his sight line. C'mon, Rut, surely you don't need this explained to you.

You are the one that said throw out the procedures. I never said that we should not get plays right, but I am not going to dismiss a partner's call because I think they got it wrong either without following a procedure. I think you need to spell out what you mean if the suggestion is anyone can come in and change an "incorrect" call they believe took place. You should be clearer or specific as to what you mean. I am not trying to read your mind.

Peace