over rule or not

[MD Longhorn]

Why are we assuming PU made the wrong call? Why would you, as BU, make that assumption on the field? Wow. If I made this call and you marched in to try to "overrule" me, you'd keep going and I'd work the rest alone. What nonsense.

[cb33]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Why are we assuming PU made the wrong call? Why would you, as BU, make that assumption on the field? Wow. If I made this call and you marched in to try to "overrule" me, you'd keep going and I'd work the rest alone. What nonsense.

When I see it happen with my eyes, I don't consider that assuming. The batter tried to avoid the pitch and was hit. The kid should be awarded first base. If you would have made the same call as the PU in this game then you would have been wrong to. Just saying...

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by cb33

When I see it happen with my eyes, I don't consider that assuming. The batter tried to avoid the pitch and was hit. The kid should be awarded first base. If you would have made the same call as the PU in this game then you would have been wrong to. Just saying...

Please look in the rulebook and see where you are never allowed to overrule another official.

Then umpire another 1000 games or so. Then come back here and (not ask) answer this question.

Joel

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by cb33

When I see it happen with my eyes, I don't consider that assuming. The batter tried to avoid the pitch and was hit. The kid should be awarded first base. If you would have made the same call as the PU in this game then you would have been wrong to. Just saying...

No offense, but why do you think your opinion from 90-ish feet away of whether the batter tried to avoid the pitch or not should be substituted for that of your partner (remember - he's your PARTNER) who is 3-5 feet away. I guarantee you that if I made this call and ordered the batter to stay in the box, I had a reason. You should respect your partner enough to assume that he had a reason.

Consider this the next time you think about "overruling" or "correcting" your partner... there's a reason we have areas of responsibility. Obviously, you and your partner saw things differently - the default should be that the umpire whose call this is had the better view, unless that umpire himself feels he missed something for a reason. It is the height of arrogance for any umpire to assume his vision of a play from many feet away was better than his partners, right on the spot.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Why are we assuming PU made the wrong call? Why would you, as BU, make that assumption on the field? Wow. If I made this call and you marched in to try to "overrule" me, you'd keep going and I'd work the rest alone. What nonsense.

Amen, preach on.

come out and overrule a banger (I had him safe, no tag. He had a tag and out) I had at 3rd last year. Had no business coming out from behind the plate at all, and flat out came to me and told me he was overruling me, and that he would take all the heat. Which didn't happen by the way. You don't offer help on JUDGEMENT calls unless asked by the umpire who made the call.