Fpsr??

[cookie]

I did a community college scrimmage (NCAA Rules) last Saturday and have been thinking over a play that perhaps I should have called a Force Play Slide Rule interference call, though I didn't. I'll try to describe it as best as possible...

R1, 1 out, batter hits a grounder to SS who throws to F4 who takes the throw to the backside of 2nd base (left field side). I as the plate umpire am observing the play from 3rd base side/half-way to the mound. I observe R1 running hard toward second, who then jumps toward second as F4 takes the throw touching the bag. R1 lands with his feet on the bag, and then goes down into a slide more or less over the bag and sliding over and past it into contact with F4 who was just releasing the ball to first (BR was safe).

(I am aware the NCAA rules allow for R1 to pop-up slide or to slide through the bag in a straight line, unlike NFHS rules.) However, in this situation, shouldn't R1 have to start his slide before the bag and into it, not jump at an angle onto it, then go down into a slide which took him through the bag?

I didn't make the call (and no one complained), but it sure appeared in addition to the contact with F4 that the play was altered too!

Would anyone call this an instance FPSR inteference?

[dash_riprock]

Textbook FPSR violation. No doubt about it. And you should be heading up the other (1B) side of the field.

[jicecone]

The FPSR is a safety rule. If your going to error on making the call, error on the side of safety and send the message.

I haven't done NCAA ball in a while but it certainally sounds as though you could have called it there.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Textbook FPSR violation. No doubt about it. And you should be heading up the other (1B) side of the field.

Agree first 2 sentences. 3rd sentence? Whose responsibility is R1 heading to third if he's safe at 2nd and the throw from 2nd to 1st gets away.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Agree first 2 sentences. 3rd sentence? Whose responsibility is R1 heading to third if he's safe at 2nd and the throw from 2nd to 1st gets away.

If the batted ball doesn't leave the infield (as in this play), all plays on the bases belong to BU.

On the OP: 8-4.a "On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base

(emphasis added)

[cookie]

"...8-4.a 'On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base'"


I guess that pretty much makes it textbook FPSR... I will forcibly make the call next time with the full literal force of writing to back it!

Thanks, men

[KJUmp]

Cookie, were you working the scrimmage alone?
Wouldn't this normally be the BU's call? If you had a BU for this game what was he doing as the play developed?