Tampa Bay/NY Jeter HBP?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Andy (my youngest son, a baseball player, and still in H.S.), MTD, Jr., and I have watched the replay numerous times. We all agree on the following points:

1) This is a very very very close play.

2) Yes, the ball did hit the end of the bat.

3) The key is: Did the ball hit the end of bat first and then Jeter's body, or did hit Jeter's body and then the end of the bat?

4) The contact between bat, ball, and body is very very very close.

5) Notice that the PU immediately signaled DB and was awarding Jeter 1B. From the PU's angle it appears that the ball hit Jeter first and then the end of the bat.

6) Jeter really didn't have to milk it because the PU immediately signaled DB and awarded Jeter 1B.

I have not read any quotes from the PU or Crew Chief, but I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that that PU, from his angle, saw the ball hit Jeter in the stomach, then hit the end of his bat, and then hit is stomach again.

MTD, Sr.

What the umpire "saw" and what the cameras "saw"are not even close.
The ball never, ever, hit Jeter.
This is not to blame the umpire.
It is to ask what would umpires do with the play after watching the replay?
If instant replay was used and the play was, somehow, under review.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

What the umpire "saw" and what the cameras "saw"are not even close.
The ball never, ever, hit Jeter.

Uh ... yeah it did - what replay are you watching?

It is to ask what would umpires do with the play after watching the replay?
If instant replay was used and the play was, somehow, under review.

Um ... foul ball, get back in the box. Done. Easy. What's the problem?

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Uh ... yeah it did - what replay are you watching?Um ... foul ball, get back in the box. Done. Easy. What's the problem?

problem #1.. it was a fair ball.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

problem #1.. it was a fair ball.

Nope - it went off the bat handle and hit Jeter's hip - in the box - foul ball.

[Umpmazza]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Nope - it went off the bat handle and hit Jeter's hip - in the box - foul ball.

your right Rich, I looked at the replay, it did hit him.. my fault.

[johnnyg08]

Try and get this right working one man where we do nearly 60% of our summer ball.

Nearly every time, I'm awarding the batter 1B...frankly, I'm not that good to tell the difference between determining what hit what first or not.

[rbmartin]

frankly, I'm not that good to tell the difference between determining what hit what first...

Why would your first instinct be to award the guy first "nearly every time"?

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

problem #1.. it was a fair ball.

I agree with Rich it hit the hip. The dumb announcers were calling it a fair ball.