Tampa Bay/NY Jeter HBP?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

Why would your first instinct be to award the guy first "nearly every time"?

Because the pitch doesn't belong in the batter's box.

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

Why would your first instinct be to award the guy first "nearly every time"?

I always give the benefit of a doubt to the batter in this situation. Like Rich said the pitch doesn't belong in the batter box!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

This is kinda like a defensive player in basketball "flopping". It's part of the game but it decreases my respect for the "actor".

Disagree. "Faking being fouled" is a technical foul in basketball; it's rarely called because very few players actually flop without any contact. Typically, they exaggerate the contact by falling backwards; but there's contact.
Jeter's move is the equivalent of falling (along with the gutteral scream) without any contact at all.

[MrUmpire]

I realize lying is part of the game. Some players are really good at it.

I have no real issue with Derek Jeter accepting a free base offered by an umpire who screwed up. That is also part of the game.

But, Jesus, at least take the dress off and drop the purse and go to first like you had a pair.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. "Faking being fouled" is a technical foul in basketball; it's rarely called because very few players actually flop without any contact. Typically, they exaggerate the contact by falling backwards; but there's contact.
Jeter's move is the equivalent of falling (along with the gutteral scream) without any contact at all.

They are not equivalent if it is against the rules in one sport but not the other. That doesn't mean Jeter isn't a lying RAT. They all are. And I'm a Yanks fan for 50+ years.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Jeter's move is the equivalent of falling (along with the gutteral scream) without any contact at all.

Really?

He had to jacknife out of the way of the ball and it did hit the bat while in one of his hands. It's not like it wasn't even close.

Oh wait - jusy another Jeter-Hater in action. Never mind.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. "Faking being fouled" is a technical foul in basketball; it's rarely called because very few players actually flop without any contact. Typically, they exaggerate the contact by falling backwards; but there's contact.
Jeter's move is the equivalent of falling (along with the gutteral scream) without any contact at all.

Is "faking being fouled" a "T" at the NBA level?

You can't equate high school rules with pro rules. You can't equate amateur philosophies with pro philosophies either. And you sureheck can't equate what is illegal in high school basketball with what is commonly accepted in professional beisbol. They fake catches on trapped balls all the time. They have phantom tags. Every catcher in the bigs pulls pitches. And hitters taking a couple of steps to first after taking on a 3-1 count trying to draw a walk is about as commonplace as you can get. Do you propose that baseball should make up some kinda rule penalizing players for doing something like that, something players having been doing since the Babe Ruth era?

Apples and watermelons!

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Really?

He had to jacknife out of the way of the ball and it did hit the bat while in one of his hands. .

Thank God he didn't hurt his mangina.