No thread about Bob Davidson ejecting a fan?

[jwwashburn]

@ HokieUmp: I'm curious, though: you have your reasons/examples for thinking Bob Davidson's a joke, and your own that. But why, when I read your postings, do I get the feeling that you're giving WAY more respect to stadium security 'guards' than umpires? (Or, at least, the MLB guys you don't like?)

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not. If it is what the report was, then I think the Secuirty/cops should have removed him. The security guards and police might have done a good/decent or terrible job. A lot of times they do an awful job. My point is that it is none of Davidson's business what a fan is saying-this was not a high School game. There people there whose job it is to take care of this.

What about a fight in the stands? I think they almost always kick those folks out, right? what if they did not eject someone? Should Bob order that person gone, also?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not.

Why not just come out and call him a liar and be done with it?

[jwwashburn]

If the guy said it, you would think someone else would have heard it other than the guy with a mouth so foul that George Carlin once told him to cool it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If the guy said it, you would think someone else would have heard it other than the guy with a mouth so foul that George Carlin once told him to cool it.

So you are saying he is a liar then?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by Welpe

So you are saying he is a liar then?

I said I have no idea what the guy said. How could I call Davidson a liar if I have no idea what the guy said?

[JRutledge]

All I know is if someone calls me, a player or uses such terms and they are dumb enough to have me hear it. I am stopping the game and I am removing that person from the game. That does not mean I will be the one doing the actual removing, but I am getting GM to get rid of that person and let it be known what was said. This is not negotiable with anyone. That is what I am going to do.

Peace

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

All I know is if someone calls me, a player or uses such terms and they are dumb enough to have me hear it. I am stopping the game and I am removing that person from the game. That does not mean I will be the one doing the actual removing, but I am getting GM to get rid of that person and let it be known what was said. This is not negotiable with anyone. That is what I am going to do.

Peace

Jrutledge, that is absolutely fine in a High School game-I have done the very same thing a few times over the years. I even dumped a PA announcer once.

What Davidson did was ludicrous...and he did it with the purpose of being noticed. Worried about Yadier Molina climbing into the stands? Give me a break.

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not. If it is what the report was, then I think the Secuirty/cops should have removed him. The security guards and police might have done a good/decent or terrible job. A lot of times they do an awful job. My point is that it is none of Davidson's business what a fan is saying-this was not a high School game. There people there whose job it is to take care of this.

From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$; on that rationale, Davidson has a dog in that hunt. Since you're all over him about this, I can only imagine your reaction if Molina had gone off: "Davidson's a joke - he can't keep control of the field and players!" Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

What about a fight in the stands? I think they almost always kick those folks out, right? what if they did not eject someone? Should Bob order that person gone, also?

Apples v Oranges.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by HokieUmp

From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$;

How is he going to do that from the other side of the backstop?

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by HokieUmp
From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$;

Originally Posted by LMan

How is he going to do that from the other side of the backstop?

Excellent question.

So, Davidson is supposed to stick his nose where it belongs because Molina was about to commit a felony? That makes no sense. He never could have gotten to him and would have stopped had he tried. If some millionaire cannot take a moron yelling at him, that is his problem...not the umpire.

[APG]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If some millionaire cannot take a moron yelling at him, that is his problem...not the umpire.

Millions or not, every person has a breaking point. Having a lot of money doesn't make one immune.

I also find it interesting how this would be received much differently in another sport. I'm mainly speaking of basketball since in football, there's usually a buffer zone between the fans and the players/officials.

If this was done in an NBA game, then this would be a footnote in the game notes. In fact, this happened in a regular season game this past year in Portland where a couple was ejected from the game. Now I don't know the procedure for MLB. I feel the powers that be would have a hard time punishing Bob Davidson for being proactive here where game management wasn't. They'd rather have a few people make a fuss about an umpire taking care of business rather than one of their players going into the stands to take care of business.