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Old Thu Aug 26, 2010, 07:24pm
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I also let my partner take care of the courtesy runners. It supposed to be a speed up rule, if everytime they come out to run for F1 or F2 I have to drag my notes out to document it then we have delayed the speed up rule.

First time the CR comes out, the BU quickly jots down the two numbers 12/4 White - 4 as the exchange is being made. From there on its just adding the other innings it happens. If the CR comes in the game he gets x out and becomes the PU responsibility.
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Old Thu Aug 26, 2010, 07:52pm
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I use a blank spot on the back of the card to keep track of offensive and defensive trips. I use a "shorthand" version to note whether the trip is by the Home team or Visiting team, if it's Offensive or Defensive, what inning the trip occurred, and who was at bat when the trip happened. For example:

H D 5 #7 (Home Defensive 5th Inning with #7 at bat)

It's short and easy to keep track of how many trips have been used and when they were used. Occasionally a coach will ask, "Do I have any trips left?" and I can tell him in detail if he doesn't remember.
It also helps to note who is at bat so duplicate trips to the pitcher with the same batter don't occur (if that matters depending on the rules code).

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Old Thu Aug 26, 2010, 11:50pm
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I also let my partner take care of the courtesy runners. It supposed to be a speed up rule, if everytime they come out to run for F1 or F2 I have to drag my notes out to document it then we have delayed the speed up rule.

First time the CR comes out, the BU quickly jots down the two numbers 12/4 White - 4 as the exchange is being made. From there on its just adding the other innings it happens. If the CR comes in the game he gets x out and becomes the PU responsibility.
Your plan works well until a coach attempts to use a CR as a player that's been in the game already, but hasn't been a CR. Your BU wouldn't have all the substitutions on his card, would he?

In my opinion, PU keeps track of ALL substitutions. You may be dragging your notes out everytime, but that's part of the game.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 06:30am
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Lots of good suggestions....

Here's mine:

Make sure you get a copy in Braille...
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 07:17am
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Your plan works well until a coach attempts to use a CR as a player that's been in the game already, but hasn't been a CR. Your BU wouldn't have all the substitutions on his card, would he?

In my opinion, PU keeps track of ALL substitutions. You may be dragging your notes out everytime, but that's part of the game.
If a coach wants to do something that is not in compliance with the rules, he will find a way. As BU, the first time I see a new CR, I will question it but, maybe your BU's can't handle that chore, so I understand.

It's not my opinion that this works, its a fact.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 11:01am
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If a coach wants to do something that is not in compliance with the rules, he will find a way.
So it's okay for him to do through the lineup, instead of some other way?

If you keep your lineup correctly, he won't find a way to cheat -- at least by using the lineup. In fact, using your method will make it EASIER for him to cheat.

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As BU, the first time I see a new CR, I will question it but, maybe your BU's can't handle that chore, so I understand.
Question it to whom? The PU? Wouldn't it then just be easier for him to keep up with it? Your way would delay the game in a way that it shouldn't be delayed.

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It's not my opinion that this works, its a fact.
Everything works until it doesn't.

You'll find that your way of doing this is so far in the minority, that I don't think even JRut will agree with you.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 03:59pm
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Everything works until it doesn't.

Wow what manual did you pull that brillance from?

You'll find that your way of doing this is so far in the minority, that I don't think even JRut will agree with you.

I will have to make sure and mark that down somewhere, JUST IN CASE I might care.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 04:35pm
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I printed this off this site and still refer to it before every season as a refresher.

The Lineup Card -- Your Friend?
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Old Sat Aug 28, 2010, 10:43pm
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I put lineups in my shirt pocket and keep all changes on a special sheet I designed for this purpose that is in my left ball bag - Subs, CR's, conferences by inning, offensive and defensive, pitching changes, official warnings, etc. It is similar to the one that comes with Honigs little notebook, but I have more stuff on mine. I can only write stuff reported to me, and the lineup sheet I only need if there is an issue I need to refere to official lineup for, such as BOO.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 07:39am
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Your plan works well until a coach attempts to use a CR as a player that's been in the game already, but hasn't been a CR. Your BU wouldn't have all the substitutions on his card, would he?

In my opinion, PU keeps track of ALL substitutions. You may be dragging your notes out everytime, but that's part of the game.
It also won't work if the CR then tries to enter the game in another offensive position in that same inning.

It doesn't take too long to write "4CR2 -2" on the back of the card. (#4 Courtesy Runner for F2 - 2nd inning).

It's specifically UIC's job; UIC should do it.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 08:15am
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It also won't work if the CR then tries to enter the game in another offensive position in that same inning.

It doesn't take too long to write "4CR2 -2" on the back of the card. (#4 Courtesy Runner for F2 - 2nd inning).

It's specifically UIC's job; UIC should do it.
Go for it then.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 10:14am
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I wear two ball bags behind the plate and then will put the lineup of the team in the 3B dugout in my left bag and the lineup of the team in the 1B dugout in my right bag.
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Old Fri Aug 27, 2010, 10:44am
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So then you must carry your pencil in your jersey pocket so as not to show favortism, correct?
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