Tough ending to game

[waltjp]

I'm not making an argument against the appeal. My question was to the post that stated that the PU has to get this call.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by waltjp

I'm not making an argument against the appeal. My question was to the post that stated that the PU has to get this call.

You don't think it's PU's job to see and call a swing?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You don't think it's PU's job to see and call a swing?

You're pulling my leg, right? You can't possibly be this obtuse. Of course the PU calls ball and strikes but following your line of thinking there is no need for check swing appeals.

So what do you propose? Should the PU have sole authority for all balls and strikes, including all swings? Should we not have a check swing appeal?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by waltjp

You're pulling my leg, right? You can't possibly be this obtuse. Of course the PU calls ball and strikes but following your line of thinking there is no need for check swing appeals.

So what do you propose? Should the PU have sole authority for all balls and strikes, including all swings? Should we not have a check swing appeal?

The PU can and has the authority to rule on a swing. In NF rules it is up to the PU to make the request. So on some level the answer is yes. But if you do not see it, then ask for an appeal. But if you see a clear swing, why ask for an appeal?

Peace

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Of course the PU calls ball and strikes but following your line of thinking there is no need for check swing appeals.

That is not following my line of thinking. I have no problem with appeals. In fact, I love them and always grant them even in FED.

My comment referred to a situation where PU, with an unobstructed view of the batter, failed to see even an attempt at a swing (because he was tracking an outside pitch) that his partner eventually rang up. The OP intimated that it was a full swing, not a borderline check swing. That is a call that PU is expected to get without any help. You pull that stuff in college or even decent HS varsity and you will get chewed on (properly) for not getting your own calls.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

That is not following my line of thinking. I have no problem with appeals. In fact, I love them and always grant them even in FED.

My comment referred to a situation where PU, with an unobstructed view of the batter, failed to see even an attempt at a swing (because he was tracking an outside pitch) that his partner eventually rang up. The OP intimated that it was a full swing, not a borderline check swing. That is a call that PU is expected to get without any help. You pull that stuff in college or even decent HS varsity and you will get chewed on (properly) for not getting your own calls.

I agree with this. Appears we had a misunderstanding.